McKenzie's rankings aka polling 10 scouts: Top 15 pre-lottery edition

[Marc the Habs Fan]

https://www.tsn.ca/the-big-four-solidify-spots-in-tsn-draft-ranking-1.1066345

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[Peasy]

Hughes to low imo.

I'd have him over Dobson and Bouchard.

Crazy how much Kravtsov has risen. Was barely considered a first rounder 2 months ago.

 

[boredmale]

What's the story on Jesperi Kotkaniemi? As an Islanders fan with our 2 picks I want to go Center and Defense, I thought our only option might be Veleno but if their is 2 guys we can look at I like that much better

 

[tfong]

Hughes way to low imo.

Your opinion vs the opinion of the 10 scouts he surveyed.

Hmmm Denisenko ahead of Kravstov?

 

[Peasy]

Your opinion vs the opinion of the 10 scouts he surveyed.

Hmmm Denisenko ahead of Kravstov?

Am I not allowed to have an opinion?

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

What's the story on Jesperi Kotkaniemi? As an Islanders fan with our 2 picks I want to go Center and Defense, I thought our only option might be Veleno but if their is 2 guys we can look at I like that much better

If you have TSN or NHL network, you can watch him tomorrow at 6:30 AM vs Sweden.

He appears to be a big, rangy all-around C with very good, but probably not high end skill. His skating ability is probably somewhere between ''OK'' to ''slightly above average''. Played well as a 17 year old in the main Finnish league.

 

[boredmale]

If you have TSN or NHL network, you can watch him tomorrow at 6:30 AM vs Sweden.

He appears to be a big, rangy all-around C with very good, but probably not high end skill. His skating ability is probably somewhere between ''OK'' to ''slightly above average''. Played well as a 17 year old in the main Finnish league.

Thanks. On the negative side for the Islanders I just noticed this

And while there was a little bit of separation between those three and Hughes at No. 9, understand one thing about this year’s draft: Based on our survey, there is a huge drop off in consensus after No. 9.

Just our luck, we win the final 3 games this season and now pick 10th. lol

 

[pckstpr31]

Always nice to see what actual NHL scouts think. Not surprised that Tkachuk is still in the top 5. Also interesting that it seems like Bouchard is a clear, if small, step ahead of Boqvist and Dobson, based on what the article says about Boqvist/Wahlstrom/Dobson being interchangeable.

 

[Boxscore]

Hughes at 9 is criminal. Bob is losing his mind.

 

[boredmale]

Hughes at 9 is criminal. Bob is losing his mind.

Bob gets like 10 scouts to rank players that then averages their ratings

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

NHL scouts, not Bob. I should just edit the title.

 

[tfong]

Am I not allowed to have an opinion?

I didn't say you're not allowed.

I was just supporting the 10 scout opinions over yours lol.

 

[Orthodox Caveman]

I like it. Red Wings are going to get a nice pick.

 

[Breakers]

"And while there was a little bit of separation between those three and Hughes at No. 9, understand one thing about this year’s draft: Based on our survey, there is a huge drop off in consensus after No. 9."

Thank God Vancouver can only drop to 9

 

[JK2K]

Drop off in comsensus no skill or talent.

 

[dellzor]

Hughes is at #9 hmm..

 

[AmericanDream]

glad to see the ACTUAL scouting community continues to see Brady Tkachuk for the player he is and not just stat watchers online. He is in the big 4-5 players for this draft, though I have Wahlstrom just ahead of him.

 

[Martin Skoula]

"And while there was a little bit of separation between those three and Hughes at No. 9, understand one thing about this year’s draft: Based on our survey, there is a huge drop off in consensus after No. 9."

Thank God Vancouver can only drop to 9

Said the same thing when they were picking #6 to be fair.

 

[HoseEmDown]

I think the thing knocking Hughes down is size and handedness. After Dahlin the next batch of defenders are all pretty close, Hughes/Bouchard/Boqvist/Dobson. The other 3 are a little bigger and right handed which teams value a bit more. I think all are really good so being 9 is not a knock on him.

 

[boredmale]

I think the thing knocking Hughes down is size and handedness.

How many guys do you see drafted at 5'10 and end up growing an inch or 2 though. An an Islanders fan I actually hope he falls to us, we need lefties more then righties, especially given the fact Pelech(lefty) can play both left or right)

 

[Castle8130]

Never heard of a guy thats a defenseman, has the point/game ratio that he does, and his size that has busted. (Evan Bouchard)

 

[HoseEmDown]

How many guys do you see drafted at 5'10 and end up growing an inch or 2 though. An an Islanders fan I actually hope he falls to us, we need lefties more then righties, especially given the fact Pelech(lefty) can play both left or right)

Off hand I don't know but it's entirely possible it can happen. I think Parayko was passed over his draft year then he grow a few inches and was picked as an overager the next. I'm pretty sure Hughes brother isn't big either so I don't think they have much more growing to do. I haven't tried to read the board on what teams might pick yet, will wait till after the lottery so you have a better understanding. I don't think he'll fall far enough for the Islanders though so you'd need to move up for him.

 

[boredmale]

Off hand I don't know but it's entirely possible it can happen. I think Parayko was passed over his draft year then he grow a few inches and was picked as an overager the next. I'm pretty sure Hughes brother isn't big either so I don't think they have much more growing to do. I haven't tried to read the board on what teams might pick yet, will wait till after the lottery so you have a better understanding. I don't think he'll fall far enough for the Islanders though so you'd need to move up for him.

Assuming Islanders don't drop in the lottery, it only takes one forward not rated in Bob's top 9 for a defenseman to drop to us

 

[M2Beezy]

1 Dahlin

2 Svech

3 Zadina
4 Boquist
5 Wahlstorm

6 Kotkaniemi
7 Hughes
8 Tkachuck

9 Farabee
10 Bouchard

 

[mouser]

How many guys do you see drafted at 5'10 and end up growing an inch or 2 though. An an Islanders fan I actually hope he falls to us, we need lefties more then righties, especially given the fact Pelech(lefty) can play both left or right)

It's possible, however Quinn is already a late birthday--he turns 19 in October.

Of course who knows hold old that 5'10" measurement was?