rboomercat90
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I think what they were doing was hoping enough time had passed for everybody to forget how terrible Mclellan and Woodcroft were last year.
TSN: McKenzie: Woodcroft Assigned to Bakersfields
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rboomercat90
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I think Woodcroft being given the Bakersfield job is a pretty strong signal Mclellan isn’t getting fired next year no matter how bad the team performs. If they fire Mclellan is there still a need for Woodcroft in the minors. Would they run the risk of having to replace both of them mid season? I don’t think so.
What are the odds Jay Woodcroft becomes a guy that other teams covet to be the next head coach of their NHL team?
The Oilers never seem to have that guy. Either on our AHL team or on the NHL staff. This team not only sucks at developing players. They suck at developing coaches too.
The Oilers never seem to have that guy. Either on our AHL team or on the NHL staff. This team not only sucks at developing players. They suck at developing coaches too.
guymez
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The team had a top 5 PP was a top defensive team and had a strong PK last season.. Why are you omitting that?
Why just cherry pick elements of this season.
Lets take a look at this past season....
The team had the top PK in the NHL on the road and was garbage at home. How is this even possible if the cause is systems related? Its the same system.
Despite being one of the top defensive teams in the NHL last season they were terrible this season. Their team defense was embarrassing...pathetic...pick your adjective. It was bad.
It was the same system as last season...a system very similar to what other teams used successfully this season.
Why was this a fail this season? Execution. This years team consisted (by and large) of a group of disengaged players. They couldnt have executed a 2 car parade.
That along with Chiarellis inability to fill the holes on the team this season are by far IMO the biggest reasons for this years failure.
Goaltending and coaching played a role by not nearly to the degree that the GM and the players themselves did.
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guymez
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IIRC Fleming was an interim coach (originally) picked by Nelson when he departed. There was no clear evidence that he and McLellan were on the same page. Woodcroft knows the systems.
This is important for continuity of systems so that when players get called up they have a better chance at success.
Reports out of Bakersfield also had Fleming playing the vets over the prospects. Woodcroft has a strong rep with regards to prospects and thier development.
So I dont see the negative here.
As I posted above I think posters who want to blame this past season primarily on coaching are being overtly reactive (pissed off, frustrated...whatever) and consequently overly simplistic in their analysis of this past season.
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Thank god for the conference call feature on Skype.
guymez
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Its an interesting day for sure. I expected Todd to remain on and 1 or 2 changes at assistant coach so this exceeds my prediction.
If GG and Yawney are hired ( as rumored) then IMO its a god day.
Both are good coaches and both are potential HC material so it will provide Todd with a lot of experience and also push him because either could take his job.
I like it.
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Woodcroft can destroy the career of every player in Bakersfield and I'll still be happy just from not having to see his PPs anymore.
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guymez
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Last years PP was more about properly executing a system than it was about Mark Letestu and luck.
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Really?
Last year was more about a higher level of execution.
Name one aspect of this season that this team consistently executed at a high level.
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It seems like the league adjusted to that system and Woodcroft didn't even try to do his own adjustments.
They literally gave up and just started rolling normal lines by the end of the season.
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guymez
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That narrative doesn't make any sense. Especially when you consider the abject failure this years team was in executing anything.
You had a member of an opposing team openly mocking the Oilers PP system. I believe Kevin Bieksa said something along the lines of "we haven't seen a system like that since 2007." And what dnicks said is true. The coaching staff literally quit on their PP in the last couple weeks of the system and just started rolling out their lines.
If the team isn't executing properly it's on the coaching staff to put something in place that they will.
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Thanks...my brain went on vacation. Forgot they released Fleming and didn't realise one of the other AHL guys was released/not renewed. I was focused on the big club moves lol...I am curious if Schwartz is keeping his goalie coach job or not.
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As I mentioned it was a top 5 NHL PP last season and NO Letestu wasnt the main reason for that.
Although having a right shot one time option did help.
Name one thing that this team was able to execute at a consistently high level this season.
Just one.
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Exploring the Oilers' Powerplay Issues
Reminder that we were having this conversation about Woodcroft in 15-16.
Reminder that we were having this conversation about Woodcroft in 15-16.
