McClement to Carolina
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The guy costs us a big chunk of draft picks, turns down a ridiculously overvalued contract to resign (thankfully) and then badmouths his teammates on his way out. We're sure going to miss his leadership.
I'm pretty sure Bolland didn't ask us to give up draft picks for him. He wanted to go to Florida, who cares? And there IS a problem in the dressing room, that's why #culturechange.
Before he was injured he was arguably our best player.
"I want to go to Florida" is probably what he meant when he kept saying how much he loved it here and wanted to resign. He should come with a built-in bs translator. The mature thing to do, you'd think, would be to ask for a sit-down with Shanahan instead of just bolting town and spewing off to the media. Good riddance.
Letting him go is mostly just a sign that he was viewed as not good enough to warrant another contract. There are currently more than enough roster spots to go around anyway. If they actually want to compete, they should at least sign a passable 4th line C and let Carrick/McKegg battle against him for a spot in camp. Hell, the Leafs have the budget to sign anyone under 950k and send them down if they suck.
Not sure if are being serious about the bold part or not. Think you forgot this
Well, I just meant he had a pretty good October. Do you remember all of those threads exalting Bolland?
But yeah, I definitely didn't want to pay him what Florida did so it's all a moot point.
Clark4Ever
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Lol, probably.
McClement was very overrated here. He has a very limited skillset, he took too many penalties, and our PK struggled last season with him as our primary option.
He was expendable. There's a reason why teams didn't line up to offer him more than Carolina did.
I supposed that is true. But it sure feels like we are slowly going downhill. Komarov really helps, but the rest of the changes seem underwhelming or counterproductive.
I don't like this.
I understand the NHL is 'sink or swim.' You either perform or your inevitably on the way out. But I don't like how our management tends to give up on players after one poor season. If Anaheim did that with Getzlaf, then where they be today?
McClement was downright terrible last year. Who knows why. Whether it was Carlyle's (over)use of him or some other issue, he clearly did not play to the level we know he can play at. We saw what he could do in his first half-season, where he actually managed to grab Selke votes. Both St. Louis and Colorado fans speak highly of him.
If there's a better option out there, by all means, sign him. I'm not sure there is one, certainly not internally.
I understand the NHL is 'sink or swim.' You either perform or your inevitably on the way out. But I don't like how our management tends to give up on players after one poor season. If Anaheim did that with Getzlaf, then where they be today?
McClement was downright terrible last year. Who knows why. Whether it was Carlyle's (over)use of him or some other issue, he clearly did not play to the level we know he can play at. We saw what he could do in his first half-season, where he actually managed to grab Selke votes. Both St. Louis and Colorado fans speak highly of him.
If there's a better option out there, by all means, sign him. I'm not sure there is one, certainly not internally.
Or it's your irrational dislike which leads you to believe that. Funny how Bolland admits to going where the money is, then casts suspicion on the Leafs locker room. Stay classy in Sunrise you money grubbing plug.
I think part of the reason the Hurricanes aren't that good these days is because half their roster seems to be comprised of guys who deemed expendable by crappy Leafs teams.
Good luck to McClement in any case. I think he'll be better in a more defined, limited role, rather than anchoring the third line and playing more than Phil Kessel some nights.
Let me tell you about the Tlusty for Paradis deal..............
mcleex
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Why couldn't we have just matched that?? Last year and before two hometown boys decided to come to the Leafs for discounts Clarkson and McClement and look how they got treated and people wonder why no one wanted to come here this offseason lol
Stamkos anyone???
Stamkos anyone???
masarume
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To be honest, he cast suspicion before he knew what Flordia/Toronto's final offers were.
Are you upset with him because he took more money?
Class doesn't mean not speaking up when there's a problem (if he in fact did speak out). It also doesn't mean taking less money so the fans will like you.
I get that he cost us several picks, but that's on Nonis, not him.
masarume
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Leaf fans are vicious.
I don't get how it's McClement's fault that he got played more than he should.
I would've liked for him to have stayed, but I won't loose too much sleep now that he's in Carolina.
rrc1967
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I'm wondering who the leafs think will win faceoffs.
all their centers are incredibly weak at faceoffs - making any gains they have made in defense just go out the window.
Bozak won only 38% of the draws he took on the PK, and all three centers shared ES draws, with McClement being the only one over 50%.
all their centers are incredibly weak at faceoffs - making any gains they have made in defense just go out the window.
Bozak won only 38% of the draws he took on the PK, and all three centers shared ES draws, with McClement being the only one over 50%.
Yeah I don't get it. Who cares about this guy, like honestly. This whole team and the players get soooo overhyped. This team needs change. I couldn't care less if he 's only getting a million bucks, he's another guy that is off this roster and another change can be made. We finished out of the playoffs for a reason and he was one of the many reasons why. Adios.
I think Jay's play slipped last year and he wasn't as effective on the PK...I'm glad to see him go.
Well maybe with a change we'll add some more offense. Jay was good at face-offs but he was a blackhole offensively. More possession time in the O-zone = less face-offs taken in the D-zone. Changes...any change is good right now. Signing him would be yet another signal that we're fine with mediocre crap. Let's not overreact and pretend this guy was some sort of big player for us during his time here.
not a fan of this move, thought mcclement was a great 4th liner, I guess management just thinks kontiola will be a better 4th liner
He definitely has better skill than McClement. Like Nonis said you can't play your 4th line only 3-4 mins a game. You need guys that can get up and down the ice. Kontiola will provide some much needed skill in the bottom 6. Lugging out McClement, Orr/McClaren is such a waste
rrc1967
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well, last year's problem wasn't offense. and any time you give up control over the puck it's a bad move. losing faceoffs on the PK is even more so.
minimizing it as if the player did nothing is just as much of an overreaction - and even more so. this was an area the leafs needed desperately to improve in, not make weaker.
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soo. there's something 'really wrong' in the Leafs locker room, didn't specify what it is, but was willing to stay in the locker room that is 'really wrong' quote unquote had the Leafs paid him 5.5 for the years he want.
shut the everloving hell up, Bolland.
I mean obviously there are issues - there have been underlying threads that it's clearly from Phaneuf etc (Shanahan even said he hopes that Phaneuf can use him as a resource etc). but is he saying this if he's a Leaf? (and quite frankly if he did - my next question would be what does HE expect to do to help matters).
