Rumor: Matthew Tkachuk done with the Flames?

[Ledge And Dairy]

Again ,I cant see it ...But all I can do is hope for the best as I dont want the Flames or their fanbase go through more so/so teams that have been iced over the last little while

Outside fans may think that Calgary should rebuild but they definitely won't. Flames drastically underperformed this year, their #1 center played with a messed up hip for 35 of his 50 games, not to mention him and Johnny played almost the entire season at 4v5 since the 3rd guy on their line was an AHL plug. They had the lowest paid coach in the league to start the year (for good reason) and when they swapped to Sutter it took time for him to implement his system. Flames have already gone out and completely reworked their coaching staff for next year, bringing in a renowned guy like Kirk Muller too. They also have over 10M locked up in 2 30+ players signed long term that they brought in last year, their starting goalie being one of them. Calgary is also in the process of paying for a new arena for the 2025 season, blowing it up would drastically hurt the teams income and may result in a cancellation of that project. All things considered there is just no way the Flames rebuild at this point in time even if nothing major changes on the roster this summer.

 

[lwvs84]

Funny thing is it was SJ pick that got him for us ,our turned out to be 5th lol we suck

Haha, last time we had a "high" pick that was someone else's, it dropped to 10th (not lottery, just the team going on a random winning streak if I remember right). I was hoping it would go Ducks/San Jose/Ottawa last year. But, Ducks pick drops every year without fail.

 

[Bouboumaster]

What are Calgary's need, in case where Tkachuck would want to go?

Obviously would want him on the Habs, depending of the price

 

[Eggtimer]

The biggest knock on the Flames every year is they don't have a legitmate 1c, Calgary was by all metrics a top 10 team in the league after Sutter fully implemented his system (last ~15 games), yes its a small sample size I know. Adding Eichel (if healthy) would definitely make them a playoff team and potentially a contender

Yes I agree . IF they keep the current roster and add Eichel lol. Only little thing is that who are they subtracting from the roster to get Eichel?

 

[topshelf15]

Haha, last time we had a "high" pick that was someone else's, it dropped to 10th (not lottery, just the team going on a random winning streak if I remember right). I was hoping it would go Ducks/San Jose/Ottawa last year. But, Ducks pick drops every year without fail.

It has to be fixed ...lol

 

[TheNumber4]

Lots of overpays in this thread for Tkachuk. He’s overrated. Whoever gets him will be disappointed.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Bookmarked. Let’s revisit after this next year.

To clarify the bet is you think Puljuarvi will be better than all 3 of PLD, Laine, and Tkachuk, that correct?

 

[topshelf15]

Outside fans may think that Calgary should rebuild but they definitely won't. Flames drastically underperformed this year, their #1 center played with a messed up hip for 35 of his 50 games, not to mention him and Johnny played almost the entire season at 4v5 since the 3rd guy on their line was an AHL plug. They had the lowest paid coach in the league to start the year (for good reason) and when they swapped to Sutter it took time for him to implement his system. Flames have already gone out and completely reworked their coaching staff for next year, bringing in a renowned guy like Kirk Muller too. They also have over 10M locked up in 2 30+ players signed long term that they brought in last year, their starting goalie being one of them. Calgary is also in the process of paying for a new arena for the 2025 season, blowing it up would drastically hurt the teams income and may result in a cancellation of that project. All things considered there is just no way the Flames rebuild at this point in time even if nothing major changes on the roster this summer.

Fair enough .as you are right Iam an outside fan and wouldnt know the entire situation...Its just you western guys are the counter for our eastern rivals when they get out of hand...And really want what is best for our allies against the Habs and Leafs lol...

 

[TheNumber4]

To clarify the bet is you think Puljuarvi will be better than all 3 of PLD, Laine, and Tkachuk, that correct?

Yes. But including overall 2 way game and not just basing it on pure production.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Yes I agree . IF they keep the current roster and add Eichel lol. Only little thing is that who are they subtracting from the roster to get Eichel?

Monahan and a boat of futures/ Tkachuk + 12? Either way Eichel upgrades the roster that was already trending upward to end the season

 

[Double Dion]

I guess,but what do Calgary fans want???Try and cobble together another playoff team and hope for a run ,or do the rebuild right and gain a consistent playoff threat that can last years...I love the Flames and western Canada and will move there if u guys separate lol

Lol. I'm for Sask and AB doing their own thing too.

I can only speak for myself. I want a full rebuild. If we went that route I'd trade anyone not named Mangiapane, Dube, Andersson or Hanifin from the active roster. That said, I know we won't do that so I guess I want to move the LW that has the most value and that's Tkachuk. Monahan is expendable, but I don't think he brings back much with his 5 surgeries in the last 2 years so I'd hang onto him and hope he regains some value.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Yes. But including overall 2 way game and not just basing it on pure production.

That's fine, Laine's 2-way game isn't that strong but improving, PLD's was very good (mind you it was under Torts), and Tkachuk has always had a solid 2-way game

 

[lawrence]

Something around Nylander or Marner.

shitty return for Calgary if it's for any of those guys. Don't @ me with Marners stats.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Draft floor:

Ottawa - Draisaitl
Edmonton - B.Tkachuk + M.Tkachuk + 42nd
Calgary - C. Brown + 20th


Ottawa - German duo rampage on the league
Edmonton - Tkachuks wreck havoc and make Edm fun again.
Calgary - Tkachuk is a loss, but he soured on this team/fanbase...Brown is a lunch pail producer and gives scouts another selection, in a otherwise hard to gage draft; that we'll look back at the teams (scouts) that were able to rank properly with limited viewing.

I'm also just bored and wanted to do a blockbuster

 

[topshelf15]

Lol. I'm for Sask and AB doing their own thing too.

I can only speak for myself. I want a full rebuild. If we went that route I'd trade anyone not named Mangiapane, Dube, Andersson or Hanifin from the active roster. That said, I know we won't do that so I guess I want to move the LW that has the most value and that's Tkachuk. Monahan is expendable, but I don't think he brings back much with his 5 surgeries in the last 2 years so I'd hang onto him and hope he regains some value.

Oh please let this happen I am in the West almost weekly ,I run mail on a dedicated through there all the time,the east seems to have forgotten who has buttered their bread

 

[Double Dion]

I agree in that Lindholm is the player I’d most rather have of the flames forwards in trade . Mangiapaine is going to be a 30g guy or very close to it .

I just love that contract with Lindholm. He's a better player than most people realize. The kind of guy you can win with and our only legit RHS. Mangiapane is just like him except he's a winger. I just think both of their value will increase as people see more of them.

Tkachuk on the other hand is at peak value now. That's why I'd move him.

 

[topshelf15]

Draft floor:

Ottawa - Draisaitl
Edmonton - B.Tkachuk + M.Tkachuk + 42nd
Calgary - C. Brown + 20th


Ottawa - German duo rampage on the league
Edmonton - Tkachuks wreck havoc and make Edm fun again.
Calgary - Tkachuk is a loss, but he soured on this team/fanbase...Brown is a lunch pail producer and gives scouts another selection, in a otherwise hard to gage draft; that we'll look back at the teams (scouts) that were able to rank properly with limited viewing.

I'm also just bored and wanted to do a blockbuster

Please dont do this to us ,whatever they throw at us is gonna be big and hurt

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Draft floor:

Ottawa - Draisaitl
Edmonton - B.Tkachuk + M.Tkachuk + 42nd
Calgary - C. Brown + 20th


Ottawa - German duo rampage on the league
Edmonton - Tkachuks wreck havoc and make Edm fun again.
Calgary - Tkachuk is a loss, but he soured on this team/fanbase...Brown is a lunch pail producer and gives scouts another selection, in a otherwise hard to gage draft; that we'll look back at the teams (scouts) that were able to rank properly with limited viewing.

I'm also just bored and wanted to do a blockbuster

Wow this is... really bad

 

[TheNumber4]

That's fine, Laine's 2-way game isn't that strong but improving, PLD's was very good (mind you it was under Torts), and Tkachuk has always had a solid 2-way game

Agreed on all assessments. I just think Pulju is a 2 way beast that no one really noticed yet. League will find out soon though.

 

[topshelf15]

Wow this is... really bad

*Ottawa fans cover heads and throw wallets screaming we are sorry*

 

[Double Dion]

Oh please let this happen I am in the West almost weekly ,I run mail on a dedicated through there all the time,the east seems to have forgotten who has buttered their bread

I have no resentment to the East. Just the majority have different values and views than people here. Population number being what they are means AB and Sask will never have a government that represents the majority here.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Buchnevich, Nils Lundkvist, Zac Jones and the 21 1st

For

Matt Tkachuk

Isn't Buchnevich at least as good as Tkachuk nowadays?

 

[topshelf15]

I have no resentment to the East. Just the majority have different values and views than people here. Population number being what they are means AB and Sask will never have a government that represents the majority here.

Well I love it out there and get along much better with u guys,the east just seems to be more about what is happening in the bigger cities rather than the rest of us

 

[FOurteenS inCisOr]

Hawks would be idiots to trade Dach. He’s going to be leading that team when Toews is long gone.

He’s overrated. Low offensive ceiling.

 

[Half Clapper]

Draft floor:

Ottawa - Draisaitl
Edmonton - B.Tkachuk + M.Tkachuk + 42nd
Calgary - C. Brown + 20th


Ottawa - German duo rampage on the league
Edmonton - Tkachuks wreck havoc and make Edm fun again.
Calgary - Tkachuk is a loss, but he soured on this team/fanbase...Brown is a lunch pail producer and gives scouts another selection, in a otherwise hard to gage draft; that we'll look back at the teams (scouts) that were able to rank properly with limited viewing.

I'm also just bored and wanted to do a blockbuster

How does this help Calgary? Awful proposal.