Friedman: Matt Murray on the block?

[Lomez]

Murray was always overrated on here. Played for a powerhouse team, had help from Fleury throughout the season and for half a playoff run. He's an average goalie that played on a great team and got hot at the right time.

Pens fans that say it's Pittsburgh's defensive issues, how come DeSmith is putting up much better numbers?

I think many Pens fans would agree with you. I know its so much simpler to presume all [blank] think alike, but it really is a nuanced and somewhat complicated world out there....

 

[TOGuy14]

I know he had been injured so he isn’t in the best shape but Murray was severely was very overrated by Pens fans. After that second cup some were preparing his bust for the HHOF.

Reality is that he’s an average goalie who played on some stacked teams

 

[Empoleon8771]

I know he had been injured so he isn’t in the best shape but Murray was severely was very overrated by Pens fans. After that second cup some were preparing his bust for the HHOF.

Reality is that he’s an average goalie who played on some stacked teams

He wasn't though, this is pure hindsight speak. Prior to Fleury leaving, Murray was that good. He just fell off for whatever reason, him falling off after the 2017 cup doesn't mean that he was overrated before the cup. He was really, really good when he was still considered a "rookie".

 

[StuckOutHere]

have you heard he won two cups tho

 

[madmike77]

Flames need Murray.

Maybe... but his numbers this year are even worse than Smith's. And Smith has not been good (although he has looked a lot better lately).

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Murray is a solid goalie, but if the right offer comes along I'm pretty sure GMJR wouldn't hesitate and he would trade him.
We can acquire a rental and have Jarry down the line anyways

 

[TT1]

24 year old, 2 time stanley cup champ goalie getting moved?!

 

[Lomez]

have you heard he won two cups tho

Read the post immediately above yours. It might prove enlightening.

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

He hasn't been the same since his father, who he was super close with, passed away.

 

[Styles]

Corey Crawford? The Blackhawks could retain 2,250,00 to even out the salary. I'm not saying either team does it but would it make sense for the Pens with the age of their core? They get Crawford for two more runs at the cup and the Hawks get a goalie for the future. I'm not saying 1 for 1 is even value but it could be enticing for both sides with the current state of their franchises. Both teams are taking a gamble though with the injury history of Murray and Crawford.

 

[Curufinwe]

I know he had been injured so he isn’t in the best shape but Murray was severely was very overrated by Pens fans. After that second cup some were preparing his bust for the HHOF.

Reality is that he’s an average goalie who played on some stacked teams

That 2017 Pens playoff defense was far from stacked.

 

[flamesforcup]

He hasn't been the same since his father, who he was super close with, passed away.

This could be a huge issue some people are overlooking.

 

[Penguin Suited Up]

He wasn't though, this is pure hindsight speak. Prior to Fleury leaving, Murray was that good. He just fell off for whatever reason, him falling off after the 2017 cup doesn't mean that he was overrated before the cup. He was really, really good when he was still considered a "rookie".

Murray literally stole games for the Pens in the playoffs, especially against the Preds in 2017.

 

[Penguin Suited Up]

That 2017 Pens playoff defense was far from stacked.

Yep. That playoffs was just going into survival mode for long periods of time, then relying on quick strike offense to pull ahead.

 

[heysmilinstrange]

Last year wasn’t so hot if I recall correctly.

In the playoffs? His stats weren't as good as they were in 2016 and 2017, but he still had the best save percentage and GAA out of all the goalies the Caps played.

 

[Rodgerwilco]

He hasn't been the same since his father, who he was super close with, passed away.

I really don't understand why everyone is acting like this isn't a factor.... This really is where I noticed that things turned for MM. Losing a father is not easy for anyone, but for a guy who is only 24 years old to lose your father is incredibly tough.

He has spent such an incredible amount of time working and training to get where he is. Then on top of that, starting his professional hockey career took him farther away from his family for a lot of the year. He was very close with his father and I can only imagine how difficult it must have been for him to be away from his family, especially in the latter part of his father's life.

 

[inthe6ix]

He'll bounce back.

 

[Beauner]

Is me or is everyone on the trading block per Friedman. If a team is bad or if a player has bad start ... they are on trade block. Why doesn't he just get a monkey to throw a dart at a,bunch of names probably be more accurate...

I'm fairly certain it was Friedman who was parading a rumor that Malkin was primed to be moved a few years ago and how he wasn't happy.

Pittsburgh fans and media rightly started an absolute shitstorm and he ended up apologizing. So yeah I take his word about rumors with a massive grain of salt

 

[go4hockey]

Muzzin and Toffoli for Kessel?

Definitely not the road the Kings should be heading down. Sure trade both players but for youth and picks.

 

[One Winged Angel]

I'd be more than willing to send Lundqvist for Murray if Rutherford can cap crunch.

 

[3074326]

I know he had been injured so he isn’t in the best shape but Murray was severely was very overrated by Pens fans. After that second cup some were preparing his bust for the HHOF.

Reality is that he’s an average goalie who played on some stacked teams

He was awesome. He was not overrated. The team was different with him in net compared to MAF. You could tell the team trusted him more.

You're changing history.

He has not been awesome since his dad died. Can pretty much point to that exact moment as when his play dropped off.

 

[StuckOutHere]

Read the post immediately above yours. It might prove enlightening.

Have you heard it?!

 

[bert]

Why is every Pens player so injury prone (other than Kessel)?

Anyways Pens fans what do u want from CGY?

Probably because they have played way more hockey than every team in the league over the last 5 years.

 

[bert]

I think many Pens fans would agree with you. I know its so much simpler to presume all [blank] think alike, but it really is a nuanced and somewhat complicated world out there....

If he didnt come in and save the day against Ottawa the pens wouldnt have won the second cup. How quickly people forget that he stood on his head after the sens ran Fleury out of the rink. He is a young very talented goalie he will bounce back. So much hyperbole on these boards especially leaf fans jumping to conclusions way to early just go look at the Laine threads before he got hot.

 

[smitty10]

Edmonton should be all over this.