Friedman: Matt Murray on the block?

[PensPlz]

My biggest issue is that he's proven to be injury prone.

He's a major injury away from approaching DiPietro level.

 

[Evocable Manager]

My biggest issue is that he's proven to be injury prone.

He's a major injury away from approaching DiPietro level.

At least the contracts aren't the same

 

[Jumptheshark]

Talbot + pick for him. Struggling goalie for struggling goalie.

Pen fans will hate my response

but Murray is signed for one more year and if he has lost his mojo we have a 3.75 back up goalie next year and we will need to sign someone else

 

[PensPlz]

At least the contracts aren't the same

 

[SUBdrewgANS]

Pittsburgh would be extremely stupid to trade him and would be a knee jerk reaction. Who would we get as our starter? DeSmith is not the guy, Jarry? maybe, but he needs more development.

The guy is a year removed from back to back cups AS A ROOKIE. He just needs to build his confidence back and the team needs to play better in front of him.

 

[Dale Best Goalie]

Pittsburgh would be extremely stupid to trade him and would be a knee jerk reaction. Who would we get as our starter? DeSmith is not the guy, Jarry? maybe, but he needs more development.

The guy is a year removed from back to back cups AS A ROOKIE. He just needs to build his confidence back and the team needs to play better in front of him.

Yes that might speak to his mental toughness but the fact is that he's injury prone and was also heavily overrated

 

[BleedBlue14]

Why is every Pens player so injury prone (other than Kessel)?

Anyways Pens fans what do u want from CGY?

Because Kessel is the only one on the team with ELITE conditioning

 

[JustinW]

Is it just me or has Murray not been the same since his dad passed away?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Pittsburgh would be extremely stupid to trade him and would be a knee jerk reaction. Who would we get as our starter? DeSmith is not the guy, Jarry? maybe, but he needs more development.

The guy is a year removed from back to back cups AS A ROOKIE. He just needs to build his confidence back and the team needs to play better in front of him.

While true, the guy isn't a number 1. Any time he starts to play a lot of games his play suffers. Might as well keep him as a back up and rest him for the playoffs.

 

[robertmac43]

Moving a goalie at the time seems rash. Goalies are hard to ocme by and they have other areas they could use to improve the D. trade a forward improve the D, Murray plays better? Seems smarter to me.

 

[SEALBound]

Given the nature of this board, allow me to crush your dreams:

If you want Murray, he's not going to come cheap. He's just not. Don't care what this season has been for him. Still a two-time Cup winning goalie and he's 23. He's not coming cheap.

Why is every Pens player so injury prone (other than Kessel)?

Anyways Pens fans what do u want from CGY?

Hanafin or don't bother. Serious.

 

[Egghead1999]

Why is every Pens player so injury prone (other than Kessel)?

hot dog diet is the secret

 

[flamesforcup]

Given the nature of this board, allow me to crush your dreams:

If you want Murray, he's not going to come cheap. He's just not. Don't care what this season has been for him. Still a two-time Cup winning goalie and he's 23. He's not coming cheap.



Hanafin or don't bother. Serious.

Murray has been too inconsistant to command that return sorry. I would hesitate to trade Hanifin for Gibson or Vasilevsky let alone Murray.

 

[Canucks LB]

boeser did this!

 

[Zirakzigil]

If you want Murray, you are going to pay a very heavy price. He’s a proven winner when it matters. The Pens aren’t going to do anything rash in the middle of the season. JR is looking at options, that’s his job.

 

[kilowatt]

if the penguins need a goalie, jonathan quick likely gives them the best opportunity to win another cup

 

[Empoleon8771]

Murray was always overrated on here. Played for a powerhouse team, had help from Fleury throughout the season and for half a playoff run. He's an average goalie that played on a great team and got hot at the right time.

Pens fans that say it's Pittsburgh's defensive issues, how come DeSmith is putting up much better numbers?

Becuase you're looking at a 15 game sample size and DeSmith's overall numbers are inflated by an unsustainably good PKing save%. The team has also been dramatically worse in front of Murray than they have been in front of DeSmith.

Murray hasn't been good this year and he struggled last year, but this website once again goes stupid hyperbolic when it comes to evaluating players.

 

[biturbo19]

Man, his speculation just keeps getting more confusing. This one doesn't even make sense.

Right in the rumour, he explains that there's no quality goaltending available. So what on earth would the Penguins be doing trading their best bet at "quality goaltending" away? He may be injured, and may not have been playing up to his previous standard...but if they move him, what exactly are they accomplishing? Who is playing goal for them then? That just digs them an even deeper hole, shooting them directly into a goaltender-needy state, in a market that Friedman himself suggests is pretty much totally barren.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Man, his speculation just keeps getting more confusing. This one doesn't even make sense.

Right in the rumour, he explains that there's no quality goaltending available. So what on earth would the Penguins be doing trading their best bet at "quality goaltending" away? He may be injured, and may not have been playing up to his previous standard...but if they move him, what exactly are they accomplishing? Who is playing goal for them then? That just digs them an even deeper hole, shooting them directly into a goaltender-needy state, in a market that Friedman himself suggests is pretty much totally barren.

That's Friedman's secret, none of his rumors ever make sense

 

[Uncle]

lol nobody is paying a "heavy" price at this point for a major question mark in Murray for many reasons that have been discussed already in this thread. Health issues, head issues.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

PIT: Murray and Brassard

for

STL: Allen and Maroon

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Becuase you're looking at a 15 game sample size and DeSmith's overall numbers are inflated by an unsustainably good PKing save%. The team has also been dramatically worse in front of Murray than they have been in front of DeSmith.

Murray hasn't been good this year and he struggled last year, but this website once again goes stupid hyperbolic when it comes to evaluating players.

Right, but it doesn’t matter who the goalie is - if they have back-to-back disappointing seasons like Murray has had so far, their value is going to take a huge hit.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Right, but it doesn’t matter who the goalie is - if they have back-to-back disappointing seasons like Murray has had so far, their value is going to take a huge hit.

Oh yeah his value is very low right now, my comment was more so explaining why DeSmith has outperformed Murray this year. Murray hasn't been good this year, but the team has been dramatically better in front of DeSmith, and that's statistically.

Murray won't be traded for that reason, how are the Penguins going to improve by trading him? Unless you add a lot to Murray for a rental Bobrovsky, which obviously won't happen, you won't get a guy who's a definitely improvement on Murray for Murray. I think you'll only start seeing legit rumors about Murray being traded if he tanks for the rest of this year, and during next off-season, you may start hearing some chatter. Right now, it's crazy premature.

 

[Flames Fanatic]

I'd be surprised if he's moved during the season. Maybe, maybe at the draft.

I hope Brad would be in on it, but the price scares me too, even with him struggling.

 

[belair]

There seems to be quite a few of these former high end goaltenders struggling this season. Maybe there's something to those complaints about the equipment changes.