Speculation: Mathew Barzal Contract Discussion

[Uncle Duke]

Maybe it's more accurate to say he hasn't progressed *enough* since his rookie year. I think playing on his line would generally drive you crazy.

My guess is that deep down he feels the same way about the guys he's playing with.

 

[JayDog16]

I wouldn't give Barzal more than 8mil a year. I also believe he's a better second line center than a first.

 

[xECK29x]

Maybe in what doesn't show up in the box score, but we need more box score stuff from him. Namely goals.

He’s also not a pure goal scorer, never was, never will be. He needs finishers to play with.

 

[bstash19]

Brayden point signed a 3 year, $20.25m deal last year, and is a better player than barzal. I suspect his deal will be in a similar range

 

[Islanders4Cups]

I'm watching his goals and assists

I’ve been watching his steadily improving two-way play.

 

[Islanders4Cups]

Maybe in what doesn't show up in the box score, but we need more box score stuff from him. Namely goals.

yes we need goals from Eberle and Lee. Barzal is just about as perfect a play maker that there is.

 

[Quickdraw2828]

yes we need goals from Eberle and Lee. Barzal is just about as perfect a play maker that there is.

The problem is they know that Barzal is trying to pass to these guys all the time so they play back on him. If he was a threat to go up the middle and they had to play him close Eberle and Lee would get better shots.

 

[NewEraGM]

As a habs fan, I’d love Barzal. I’d offer sheet max everything. 4 1st round picks as compensation. I’d have no problem with that. He’s got everything. Young fast, skilled, competitive. My god would he ever look good in a habs jersey on the #1 line with Domi on his left. Maybe move Suzuki to right wing with him. Are the islanders owners strapped for cash like some other teams? What do they do? If they are, 90% of contract should be SB

join some fellow BC boys in Price, Weber, Gallagher. I think he’d enjoy playing in Montreal. Seems like a kid who is good under pressure too.

 

[19 in a row]

Pure conjecture, and only time will tell but in the current environment. I think using prior contracts to determine what Barzy will get, may be leading some to overstate what he will get. I would be very surprised if the AAV is over $7M. If I understand correctly his first UFA year would be 2024. So I would expect a 2 or 3 year deal that would still leave him an RFA at the expiration 2022 or 23, then he can cash in assuming he continues to improve on a few things and the cap goes up by then.

 

[EXTRAS]

Anyone know what evolve hockey is predicting for barzal cap #?

 

[GrandmaSlices51631]

My guess is 7.5 x 2

 

[ML19]

year 1 - 6.5 mil
year 2 - 7.5 mil
year 3 - 8 mil
year 4 - 9 mil
year 5 - 9 mil

5 years 8 mil AAV

 

[buud]

i predict...

3 yrs $19.5 mil (6.5 avg.)
year 1 - 10 mil
year 2 - 5.5 mil
year 3 - 4 mil

Barzal takes a bit less, but gets most of it upfront.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

i predict...

3 yrs $19.5 mil (6.5 avg.)
year 1 - 10 mil
year 2 - 5.5 mil
year 3 - 4 mil

Barzal takes a bit less, but gets most of it upfront.

If the games played this year are 50 vs 82, he won't be getting that money up front unless it's a signing bonus.

 

[Isles72]

my guess is 2 years 7.75 aav ; maybe give him some up front bonus so he can buy a condo

 

[Newsworthy]

I wouldn't give Barzal more than 8mil a year. I also believe he's a better second line center than a first.

I agree. I see Barzal as the perfect number 2 center. Also $8 million per would be more bargain than slightly underpaid.

 

[Newsworthy]

As a habs fan, I’d love Barzal. I’d offer sheet max everything. 4 1st round picks as compensation. I’d have no problem with that. He’s got everything. Young fast, skilled, competitive. My god would he ever look good in a habs jersey on the #1 line with Domi on his left. Maybe move Suzuki to right wing with him. Are the islanders owners strapped for cash like some other teams? What do they do? If they are, 90% of contract should be SB

join some fellow BC boys in Price, Weber, Gallagher. I think he’d enjoy playing in Montreal. Seems like a kid who is good under pressure too.

Didn't they trade Domi?
And it's not ownership strapped it's the cap itself as we have continued a culture of mismanagement.

 

[JRD76]

Didn't they trade Domi?
And it's not ownership strapped it's the cap itself as we have continued a culture of mismanagement.

His post was sept.26th. Domi I believe was traded beginning of October.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Barzal will get done, it's going to be a short deal. But affordable. It would make no sense for both parties to go long term with the cap situation now. This can even get down before the Isles move a contract or go LTIR.

 

[mm11]

Think Barzy goes for a 2 year bridge deal and plays his heart out for the NYI crest while becoming that player Trotz can count on. Lou will figure out the cap details.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Kinda plays into the Barzal contract. Like when players think of keeping the team together and not trying to get every last penny from a team.

 

[ScaredStreit]

Barzal will be done...it's Pelech after next year that I'm nervous about.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

Barzal will be done...it's Pelech after next year that I'm nervous about.

Not knowing what we're looking at this season, next season these contracts that aren't wanted are much easier to move.

 

[EXTRAS]

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2 year deal at 6.5m where the first year is 4m and then second year is 9m so that if the team wants to qualify him on the next contract it costs them 9m, or he gets to go to ufa. Take a cheap deal now to help the team, and cash in in a few years.

Similar to the Time Meier contract where he signed for slightly cheaper than market value to keep the cap down, but the last year of the contract is 10m so the qualifying offer is high.

 

[Throttle]

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2 year deal at 6.5m where the first year is 4m and then second year is 9m so that if the team wants to qualify him on the next contract it costs them 9m, or he gets to go to ufa. Take a cheap deal now to help the team, and cash in in a few years.

Similar to the Time Meier contract where he signed for slightly cheaper than market value to keep the cap down, but the last year of the contract is 10m so the qualifying offer is high.

Barzal knows if he takes too much, a contributing member of the team is gone.