Not really going too far out on a limb claiming the ROY will have a regression... The guy had the best rookie season for an Islander since Trottier. I think it will be interesting how he progresses in his play this year. We'll see how Trotz implements an actual system and the impact it has on the team's offensive numbers. The obvious counter-argument to that being Barzal's ability to essentially create offense on his own off the breakout. His speed & edgework are superb so I could see his offensive output being similar to last season even with the coaching changes.
Mat Barzal WILL take a huge step back next season
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Good to see we got the facts established about Barzal's usage. That QoC is going to skyrocket for Barzal next year because the Islander's center depth is paper thin after him. And this is all with the team captain and #1C leaving. Barzal has a lot to adapt to next year.
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I think Tortz will actually help his numbers. When I made this post, the islanders didnt have him at coach
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The only thing I will say about this is it is a marginal difference with 20 less games than Barzal. Making Matthews sample far less relevant. Can he do it for 82 games with his history of injuries. Like it or not durability is a plus, and not being durable is a negative.
BTW Barzal rocks Matthews REL Corsi wise, poseesion metrics wise, and there is no comparison A/60.
Finnish your Czech
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Doubt he takes any significant step back. If I had to estimate his point total next year, I'd say something like 78.
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I think he will score less points, but that doesn’t equate to a regression.
Trotz will develop him and the team into a stronger defensive unit. At least I’d think that would be the goal.
Obviously he’s going to get tougher matchups this coming season without Tavares on the team. It could affect his production. That being said, I doubt it would be by much. Barzal is going to establish himself as a true star in this league.
Trotz will develop him and the team into a stronger defensive unit. At least I’d think that would be the goal.
Obviously he’s going to get tougher matchups this coming season without Tavares on the team. It could affect his production. That being said, I doubt it would be by much. Barzal is going to establish himself as a true star in this league.
I’m sorry but this is ridiculous. In one game Matthews “handily outplayed Barzal” in absolute blowout mostly attributable to the islanders awful defense and goaltending
The next game... oh the next game I remember how you leaf fans were crying when Barzal absolutely dominated your boy Matthews with a 3 point night and quite frankly made Matthews look silly.... and then the islanders awful defense and goaltending still managed to lose the game for them in the shootout. Go watch that second game again and tell me Matthews outplayed him head to head this season lmao
I still remember all the “well it doesn’t count that Barzal dominated him bc the leafs won in a shootout!!” Posts. It was right after one of the usuals made another thread about Barzal too
(My entire post disregards how awful of an argument and how irrelevant 20:00 of head to head is in the first place but yeah... that too)
I point out again.. THE ONLY OPPOSING TEAM FANS COMMENTING IN THIS THREAD ARE LEAF FANS. I really wonder why that is
I'm pretty sure it doesn't help that there has been a ton of shade thrown at the Leafs new acquisition, his wife, the city of Toronto, fans of the Leafs. I'm not saying it's right but what did you expect would happen?
I get why the Islanders are upset but at some point people will start to punch back.
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What a crock of bullshit. The second pajama boy did what he did the Isles board was flooded with Leafs fans pulling their trolling nonsense gleefully rubbing salt in the wound. The mods had to deal with an endless pest control operation for weeks after.
Jimmy Firecracker
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As if Isles fans were any more cordial leading up to Tavares' free agency. Mud was slung both ways, lets not act like one side was innocent.
So that makes it okay in your mind to trash a man's wife and imply he's not a man because she may have had an opinion on where she lives the next 7 years? The sexist garbage that was floating around should have had a lot more banning.
Except for the fact that this went on for the entire season before that bc he was outperforming certain leafs golden boys and the leaf fan base on this website rightfully has the awful reputation it gets.
Oh and Tavares is still a little p***y and I wish him nothing but the worst
Had he signed with the Sharks the Leafs board would have been filled with troll posts, somehow I doubt they get removed though.
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So is the "mud slinging" at Barzal payback from Leaf fans for the Isles fans trashing Tavares, or do you and other Leaf fans actually believe Barzal will regress/won't match his 85 point season?
(Note: before the "don't put words in my mouth, I never said that" response, my question is to any/all Leaf fans who want to answer)
All I'm saying is that it's hardly a surprise that both fanbases are a little aggressive towards one another. Neither side is right and neither side is the victim. Anyways this is getting wildly off topic.
It's impossible to know, it's also impossible to assume without Tavares he suddenly gets more points. We really should just wait and see how he plays.
Jimmy Firecracker
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Prime example of an Islander fan claiming victim-hood when history shows them being one of the ones happily talking trash before JT left them.
https://hfboards.mandatory.com/posts/147329791/
Not playing the victim even remotely. I stated a fact that this has been going on all season.
Care to elaborate?? And it’s not like I’m baselessly trashing the leafs there... claiming your franchise is the Yankees minus the winning thinking it’s a good thing is actually f’n hilarious and pathetic ... especially to people from NY
I’m claiming that you idiots run around trashing Barzal out of jealousy and it has nothing to with us ripping on Tavares as it’s been happening long before he signed in Toronto
I just find it hilarious that leaf fans always think they have a bad rep for no reason when they’re trying to tear down a player because A.) he’s better than the guy the leafs picked 5th overall the same year and B.) he had a better rookie season than Matthews
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