Confirmed with Link: Martin Dzierkals Requested Leafs Trade His Rights... Leafs Declined

[Mess]

Depends on how they did their draft rankings. They either slid down to scoop up more from a pool of similar prospects, or they liked a few of them more than others.

Hindsight is 20/20, if we had drafted Aho and he had gone onto be the offensive player in his role in Toronto, we could have probably parlayed him into a better young defenseman than Dermott.

2015 was a really strong draft year so there was more value further down the draft. .In a weak draft year trading out of the 1st for a 3rd rounder likely wouldn't make a lot of sense on the surface.

Leafs trading back from #24 Konecny to #34 Dermott already looks like a downgrade, and only if Bracco and/or Dzierkals hits will it seem like a good move as so far things are not looking great as Konecny is already a 20 goal scorer..

With draft hindsight trading back passing on Konecny and taking Aho #34 (+2nd +3rd) instead of Dermott could have been seen as a win regardless of what happens to the picks now.

 

[stickty111]

2015 was a really strong draft year so there was more value further down the draft. .In a weak draft year trading out of the 1st for a 3rd rounder likely wouldn't make a lot of sense on the surface.

Leafs trading back from #24 Konecny to #34 Dermott already looks like a downgrade, and only if Bracco and/or Dzierkals hits will it seem like a good move as so far things are not looking great as Konecny is already a 20 goal scorer..

With draft hindsight trading back passing on Konecny and taking Aho #34 (+2nd +3rd) instead of Dermott could have been seen as a win regardless of what happens to the picks now.

No it already looks like a upgrade. Dermott is better then Konecny.
Facts are facts

 

[Martin Skoula]

2015 was a really strong draft year so there was more value further down the draft. .In a weak draft year trading out of the 1st for a 3rd rounder likely wouldn't make a lot of sense on the surface.

Leafs trading back from #24 Konecny to #34 Dermott already looks like a downgrade, and only if Bracco and/or Dzierkals hits will it seem like a good move as so far things are not looking great as Konecny is already a 20 goal scorer..

With draft hindsight trading back passing on Konecny and taking Aho #34 (+2nd +3rd) instead of Dermott could have been seen as a win regardless of what happens to the picks now.

We have a 20 goal scorer who's probably going to end up on our 4th line, while our next best LHD after Dermott probably isn't an NHL player.

If we're playing the hindsight game, trading down to 8 for Werenski/Provorov/Rantanen to pick up both Aho and Dermott would be the correct move.

 

[diceman934]

2015 was a really strong draft year so there was more value further down the draft. .In a weak draft year trading out of the 1st for a 3rd rounder likely wouldn't make a lot of sense on the surface.

Leafs trading back from #24 Konecny to #34 Dermott already looks like a downgrade, and only if Bracco and/or Dzierkals hits will it seem like a good move as so far things are not looking great as Konecny is already a 20 goal scorer..

With draft hindsight trading back passing on Konecny and taking Aho #34 (+2nd +3rd) instead of Dermott could have been seen as a win regardless of what happens to the picks now.

I take Dermott easily. Konecny body will not hold up playing the way he does and Dermott plays an important position and looks like a top 3 defender.

 

[rent free]

No it already looks like a upgrade. Dermott is better then Konecny.
Facts are facts

Dermott isn't better than konecky. Facts are facts.

 

[rent free]

2015 was a really strong draft year so there was more value further down the draft. .In a weak draft year trading out of the 1st for a 3rd rounder likely wouldn't make a lot of sense on the surface.

Leafs trading back from #24 Konecny to #34 Dermott already looks like a downgrade, and only if Bracco and/or Dzierkals hits will it seem like a good move as so far things are not looking great as Konecny is already a 20 goal scorer..

With draft hindsight trading back passing on Konecny and taking Aho #34 (+2nd +3rd) instead of Dermott could have been seen as a win regardless of what happens to the picks now.

Another thing to add is that the pick we ended up getting at the end was our own pick. We moved down a few times to re acquire our own pick.

 

[stickty111]

Dermott isn't better than konecky. Facts are facts.

Dermott is better then Konecny bruins fan.
Facts are facts.
Copying me just means you were wrong

 

[stickty111]

I take Dermott easily. Konecny body will not hold up playing the way he does and Dermott plays an important position and looks like a top 3 defender.

Yup Dermott>Konecny and it wont be close after a couple seasons.
No matter what some fan believes by imitating my post

 

[rent free]

Dermott is better then Konecny bruins fan.
Facts are facts.
Copying me just means you were wrong

Koneckny is better than dermott leaf fan.
Facts are facts.
Copying me just means you were wrong.

 

[Marshy]

Dermott is the better asset. It's not really close. Like come on.

 

[stickty111]

Koneckny is better than dermott leaf and fan.
Facts are facts.
Copying me just means you were wrong.

Fix your sentence structure

 

[stickty111]

Dermott is the better asset. It's not really close. Like come on.

But a Bruins said he isnt

 

[stickty111]

Koneckny isnt better than dermott leaf and fan.
Facts are facts.
Copying me just means you were right.

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[Marshy]

But a Bruins said he isnt

And I care why?

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Dermott isn't better than konecky. Facts are facts.

I don't know why this Konecky/Dermot is even a discussion. The Leafs had a chance to draft Konecky but obviously they didn't want him, hence the reason they traded down. Maybe they should have taken him....we'll know that answer in ten years.
It's been reported the Leafs traded down from 24 initially because they Larsson would be avaialble. To the Leafs surprise the Ducks drafted Larsson ahead of the Leafs so the Leafs traded down again and got Dermot.

 

[stickty111]

And I care why?

Your right. Shouldnt care what a fan of a different team believes. More indications the fan cant accept Leafs are better.

 

[rent free]

I don't know why this Konecky/Dermot is even a discussion. The Leafs had a chance to draft Konecky but obviously they didn't want him, hence the reason they traded down. Maybe they should have taken him....we'll know that answer in ten years.
It's been reported the Leafs traded down from 24 initially because they Larsson would be avaialble. To the Leafs surprise the Ducks drafted Larsson ahead of the Leafs so the Leafs traded down again and got Dermot.

Dermott was great against bottom pairing competition. Koneckny faced 2nd line competition.

I would rather have dermott than koneckny like almost everyone here because the leafs need defence but koneckny is the better player. Dermott was great against bottom pairing competition, while Koneckny plotted 20 goals while facing 2nd line competition.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Knock off the crap.

 

[LeafSteel]

Lol.

Alrighty then. Thanks.

Dizzy needs to put on his big boy pants and win an AHL job with the Marlies, and then we go from there......

 

[Mess]

Lol.

Alrighty then. Thanks.

Dizzy needs to put on his big boy pants and win an AHL job with the Marlies, and then we go from there......

He's going to be playing in the KHL this year by all reports.

 

[drewjenks]

It sounds to me like the Leafs have plans for him to play on the Marlies this season, imo.

He signed with a KHL team though.

 

[Peiskos]

Let him go. He clearly doesn't want to be in Toronto and deep down he probably isn't stupid and sees all the young elite talent on this team and knows that he won't ever crack the NHL.

Dump him ASAP, get rid of all negativity and people who don't want to be in Toronto.