Marner or Laine?

[iannn]

Lol. Cool. Your goal scorer is generational? We got one too. Twice in a generation lol

Generational is not a literal term meaning there is a maximum of one 'per generation'. It's very common for talents to play during the same time. Sid/Ovi, Lemieux/Jagr/Yzerman etc.

 

[PeterForsberg]

I'd like Laine on the Avs

 

[Canadian Finn]

this thread (and topic) sucks.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

I don't know what this has to do with the discussion in this thread, but I do know the Leafs indisputably dominated the Jets in back to back on the back of Marner while Laine was a no show.

2 games vrs. a full season and a deep playoff run.....hmmmmm

 

[X66]

I have no problem saying that Laine has the best shot arsenal in NHL history.

For starters, all of his shots are elite.

Second, he's 6"5 so the angles he has available to him are insane, and credit to him for being able to use that.

Finally, he can score 10 feet back from other elite scorers like it's nothing.

 

[Psych0dad]

Generational is not a literal term meaning there is a maximum of one 'per generation'. It's very common for talents to play during the same time. Sid/Ovi, Lemieux/Jagr/Yzerman etc.

Yeah it's not like Highlander, there can be only one.

 

[Nithoniniel]

My goodness. We're reaching unprecedented levels of childishness.

I was just about to tell him that he comes across as a twelve year old. Quite embarrassing.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Generational is not a literal term meaning there is a maximum of one 'per generation'. It's very common for talents to play during the same time. Sid/Ovi, Lemieux/Jagr/Yzerman etc.

No. Generational is a literal term.That's why you don't throw generational around. Theres generational....then everyone else. Be at least the best in your draft year if you want to label people as generational.

 

[Bodybr3ak]

Fun fact, Marner is riding a 14% OISH% (4% above his career average) and Laine currently has a 9.6 OIS% (2.1% below his career average). This will explain part of the reason for Laine's lack of assists and Marner's very high amount (although obviously Marner will always have a lot more as he is a playmaker).

This isn’t a fair thing to note about either player as they are young and only getting better every game. Their career averages will only be getting better and better each season.

 

[Canadian Finn]

It's bad because one of them was previously banned and he's somehow allowed back. This is his modus operandi. He just picks his spots, and argues incessantly with red herrings until the other party gives up. He disappeared after Matthews won the Calder and made the same excuses. He's been making these same excuses for two going on three years now, and it's just hilarious to me.

So why bother giving him anything but reminding him that he's the same excuse making machine during the 2016 season?

This thread sucks because of posters like him.

personally, I don't even think the thread should have been started.

there is no Marner or Laine.

Just asking about it is going to create arguments, with the winners coming out of the woodwork. Yes, I noticed when Laine wasn't scoring, certain members were MIA. They quickly came back.

Many of them are my fellow countryman....but I struggle with who is more annoying...the Finn fluffers or the Leafs fans....

 

[hockeeyyy]

personally, I don't even think the thread should have been started.

there is no Marner or Laine.

Just asking about it is going to create arguements, with the winners come out of the woodwork. Yes, I noticed when Laine wasn't scoring, certain members were MIA. They quickly came back.

Many of them are my fellow countryman....but I strive to find who is more annoying...the Finn fluffers or the Leafs fans....

If there was a reasonable way to present this topic, it stopped the second people got defensive about their favourite player not being unanimously rated as the best.

We all have biases. But some people are absolutely toxic about their biases and have no problem sharing it.

 

[TheOtherOne]

I'll take whoever the guy with 33 assists has been passing to.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

If there was a reasonable way to present this topic, it stopped the second people got defensive about their favourite player not being unanimously rated as the best.

We all have biases. But some people are absolutely toxic about their biases and have no problem sharing it.

And you seriously feel like you've been the rational one in this thread? With such great arguments and responses as;

lmfao

Excuses.

More excuses.

Even more excuses.

Whew, all these excuses. How do you carry them all?

I don't know what this has to do with the discussion in this thread, but I do know the Leafs indisputably dominated the Jets in back to back on the back of Marner while Laine was a no show.

 

[winnipegger]

Both these players are headed for HOF imo. Doesn't matter who you get.

 

[Damisoph]

These sort of threads bring out the worst Leaf fans.

 

[Canadian Finn]

I wish there was a way to filter posts in these threads by fanbase.

I could filter out Leafs fans and Jets fans, and get a view of a "somewhat" unbiased view.

Although that would take out 7 out of the 10 pages.

 

[Canadian Finn]

Might want to check psychodad’s post history then. He’s not worth debating with.

and yet so many do.

I think 75% of the time he is just saying stuff to get people going...

He's sitting in a basement somewhere laughing at all the people he triggers.

Great sense of humor though! I enjoy reading his posts.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Might want to check psychodad’s post history then. He’s not worth debating with.

He really is not. Yet you're responding.

 

[hockeeyyy]

He really is not. Yet you're responding.

Touche. Let's move on.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

When you lead the league in goals it really doesn't matter how many assists you have.

In a vacuum, sure. When you're compared to another elite player, it kind of does

 

[Hint1k]

In your dreams, he's no where near Marner, Some of you have real difficulty admitting it. Marner at present time is inching to McDavid level. Laine no where near that!!!

Some of you really make me laugh open your eyes to the truth.

You mean in your dreams? Cause in the real world if you put Laine and Marner on ice one-on-one. Laine wins it 21 to 6. The only way you can make Marner a better player if you put him on ice together with say Tavares. Then sure thing Marner+Tavares is better than Laine.

I mean I've seen plenty of BS about Crosby being a better player than Ovechkin. But at least Crosby fans have a point. Cause Crosby is the 2nd best player in the world. It is fair to compare the 2nd best player with the best player. It is not that big of a stretch. They are in the same tier at least.

But it is absolutely ridiculous idea to compare the best player of this season (the best for the moment obviously) with some scrub who scored 6 goals.

 

[JetsWillFly4Ever]

This isn’t a fair thing to note about either player as they are young and only getting better every game. Their career averages will only be getting better and better each season.

OIS% does not increase year by year as you get older, it is very unlikely Marner maintains the percentage he has now for the rest of even the season, never mind his career. You can maintain a higher than average percentage but there is only so much control over it one person can have.

Anyway, they're both great players despite being very different.

 

[TheDoldrums]

But it is absolutely ridiculous idea to compare the best player of this season (the best for the moment obviously) with some scrub who scored 6 goals.

just so I have this right Laine is the best player in the league this season and Marner is a scrub? That's what we're going with here?

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Laine had in one game almost as many goals as Marner has this season.

 

[Canadian Finn]

and our goalie has almost as many assists as Laine this season.

see how silly this all sounds