Confirmed with Link: Mark Stone (signed 8x~$9MM)/T. Lindberg for The Brannwagon, Oscar Lindberg, and a 2020 2nd

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We can only hope Brannstrom has a similar type of impact at his position that Stone does at his.

Hope you liked the first game with Stone!
Branny is one of the highest IQ defensive prospects I've seen since I watched Hampus Lindholm in his AHL rookie year.

Though, granted it's in the offensive zone where his high hockey IQ is the most apparent.
 

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So what’s the consensus on the Stone-Stastny pairing? This was the line I wanted Stone on, but perhaps Stas and Stone are too similar? They both want to be the playmaker.

I’d like to see Patches-Karlsson-Stone:
 

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So what’s the consensus on the Stone-Stastny pairing? This was the line I wanted Stone on, but perhaps Stas and Stone are too similar? They both want to be the playmaker.

I’d like to see Patches-Karlsson-Stone:
After their shot production yesterday, I'm willing to give Patch-Stastny-Stone another game or two. :laugh:
 

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After their shot production yesterday, I'm willing to give Patch-Stastny-Stone another game or two. :laugh:

But Stastny was very quiet on that line. I'd like to see Wild Bill up there and Stastny centering Marchy and Smith. Spread the veteran experience a little.

In other words, I agree with Brazen completely.
 
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Wild Bill looks bad to me. I'd even put Eakin over him if I could. Stazz looked bad too last night. He seemingly lost all of the faceoffs that I saw and didn't know what to do as Stone and Patches were passing it to each other all night long
 

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Wild Bill looks bad to me. I'd even put Eakin over him if I could. Stazz looked bad too last night. He seemingly lost all of the faceoffs that I saw and didn't know what to do as Stone and Patches were passing it to each other all night long
I think Wild Bill is more a 2nd line center than a first, though if he managed to get rack up some more goals that opinion could change, also hasn't helped that the first line seemingly haven't been on the same page this year, as opposed to last year, but he's usually makes up for it being pretty sound defensively. Eakin had an amazing game last night, he would have been in my top 4 players last night, the others being Patches, Stone, Reaves. (never thought I'd say that)


Also I don't want to alarm anyone.... but we did get those 2nd line voodoo dolls back right?
 

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I think Wild Bill is more a 2nd line center than a first, though if he managed to get rack up some more goals that opinion could change, also hasn't helped that the first line seemingly haven't been on the same page this year, as opposed to last year, but he's usually makes up for it being pretty sound defensively. Eakin had an amazing game last night, he would have been in my top 4 players last night, the others being Patches, Stone, Reaves. (never thought I'd say that)


Also I don't want to alarm anyone.... but we did get those 2nd line voodoo dolls back right?

Glass is a great playmaker and if he fulfills his potential, he should be in the top 2 lines. Stazz is our top center right now. I trust him to win key faceoffs unlike Wild Bill who I feel will lose a key faceoff. That's why I don't know why Gallant uses his line on the first power play unit. I believe that is a key reason why our PP is so bad. If your center can't win the face off, then you can't setup and that's why our PP sucks so bad. By the time the second unit is out there, there's only 45 seconds left most of the time.

I'm assuming that with the logjam of centers, Eakin will be traded or not extended, but maybe it's Karlsson that shouldn't be extended this off season. There's a lot of potential to make great lines this year and in the future. And that's not including Gusev. Glass, Gusev, and Tuch could be a great line. So the so-called first line really could be demoted to 3rd line. I expect GMGM to trade away 2 starting forwards this off-season. I have no idea who will be traded, but there's too many of them and some fan favorites like Wild Bill and Bellemare could be gone if they aren't willing to sign team friendly contracts.
 

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Glass is a great playmaker and if he fulfills his potential, he should be in the top 2 lines. Stazz is our top center right now. I trust him to win key faceoffs unlike Wild Bill who I feel will lose a key faceoff. That's why I don't know why Gallant uses his line on the first power play unit. I believe that is a key reason why our PP is so bad. If your center can't win the face off, then you can't setup and that's why our PP sucks so bad. By the time the second unit is out there, there's only 45 seconds left most of the time.

I'm assuming that with the logjam of centers, Eakin will be traded or not extended, but maybe it's Karlsson that shouldn't be extended this off season. There's a lot of potential to make great lines this year and in the future. And that's not including Gusev. Glass, Gusev, and Tuch could be a great line. So the so-called first line really could be demoted to 3rd line. I expect GMGM to trade away 2 starting forwards this off-season. I have no idea who will be traded, but there's too many of them and some fan favorites like Wild Bill and Bellemare could be gone if they aren't willing to sign team friendly contracts.

Karlsson plays the most minutes among the forwards. There's no way they let him walk IMO, even if he wants Stastny money. In regards to Eakin and Haula, they should offer hometown discount extensions before trading them or letting them leave next summer. Then if they want out due to limited ice time or there's no room, at least you can decide where they end up when you trade them. Glass and Gusev should force players down the depth chart but I wouldn't rush a trade until it happens.

I think the odd man out is Smith. He's got 3 years left @ 5m. That's a bit rich for the role he'll be playing next season.

The other candidate to be moved is Miller. He'd bring in a big haul after July 1st, depending how the playoffs go.
 

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So what’s the consensus on the Stone-Stastny pairing? This was the line I wanted Stone on, but perhaps Stas and Stone are too similar? They both want to be the playmaker.

I’d like to see Patches-Karlsson-Stone:

Stone can be the finisher or the play maker on the line, he lead the the WJC in goal scoring when he played on a line with Strome and Huberdeau. He is on a new team so he likely played a less selfish game and passed more than he should have but he will come along. He plays well with anyone but i do find if the center has a high motor it often can work well so maybe Kalrsson could potentially be a better fit but i would give it a little time. I think Pacioretty would be a great option for him as a high end finisher.
 
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31 Thoughts: How Golden Knights won the Mark Stone sweepstakes - Sportsnet.ca

With specifics on Stone's extension
riday is a big day, with teams allowed a 10 per cent bump on “tagging room” for the 2019–20 season on March 1. (Basically, no NHL club is allowed to have more than this year’s salary cap — $79.5 million — in commitments for next year. That rises to $87.45 million on that date.) That gives room for some business to get done, including extensions for Anaheim’s Jakob Silfverberg (five years, approximately $26.25 million) and Stone in Vegas (eight years, $76 million).
 
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The Golden Knights Have Found Their Captain - SinBin.vegas

Carp suggests that Stone be the first VGK captain

Can you place bets at the casino on stuff like this? Ive heard of crazy things to bet on here before like betting on the Oscars and shit.

Ill throw down a healthy amount that Stone is captain. He is a leader, mentor, balls to the wall day in day out...oh, and hes a superstar.

He's the first captain in history. I bet it will be announced beforr pre-season mext year.
 

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Can you place bets at the casino on stuff like this? Ive heard of crazy things to bet on here before like betting on the Oscars and ****.

Ill throw down a healthy amount that Stone is captain. He is a leader, mentor, balls to the wall day in day out...oh, and hes a superstar.

He's the first captain in history. I bet it will be announced beforr pre-season mext year.
You can put the C on a dude with the resume and potential, but we've avoided it thus far even after the arrival of Pacioretty and Stastny in favor of putting As on dudes like Belly and Schmidt.

I don't know if that changes unless Stone comes in and grabs this team by the nuts over the next few months. I hope it does.
 

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He;s a quiet leader, lead by example guy. hard working , high character guy, who mentors the young guys. He's not a flashy, dazzling guy, he just gets it done offensively and defensively.
 

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This article suggested the possibility of Ottawa taking on the rest of Clarkson's contract with their low payroll during the rebuild. Could that benefit us more next year than the cost we would have to give up for them to take it on?

Friedman speculates that Ottawa could overpay a UFA to reach the cap floor for next year. I honestly don't see that happening when you follow how they've moved out (or tried to) almost all their 4m+ contracts. If you're looking to move out Boedker, who makes 4m next season, wouldn't you want to take back dead cap space afterwards?
 

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I think I am worried about the contract, the Ducks signed Kesler to a deal that went bad, same thing with Perry but the Getzlaf deal is fine as he is still useful enough to mostly justify the cap he takes up on their team.

I guess the team has to hope Stone is more like Getzlaf than Kesler or Perry in how his play on the ice holds up.
 

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I think I am worried about the contract, the Ducks signed Kesler to a deal that went bad, same thing with Perry but the Getzlaf deal is fine as he is still useful enough to mostly justify the cap he takes up on their team.

I guess the team has to hope Stone is more like Getzlaf than Kesler or Perry in how his play on the ice holds up.

A better comparison is Benn, who does not look like a 9.5m player a couple years into his new deal. But the Stars also signed Seguin to a bigger deal after that. I don't think VGK needs to worry that much with the other big salaries only being 3-4 years in term.

Stone should be a top line player for at least 5 years. That's all we need from him at this juncture. If he regresses to 2nd and 3rd lne 2-way guy, then so be it. He'll always have his hockey IQ.

This is where the longterm deals like Schmidt, Tuch, Theodore and short term signings like Stastny Patches start to really benefit the team. The team might also have internal projections of an 84m+ cap that the public isn't aware of yet.
 
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A better comparison is Benn, who does not look like a 9.5m player a couple years into his new deal. But the Stars also signed Seguin to a bigger deal after that. I don't think VGK needs to worry that much with the other big salaries only being 3-4 years in term.

Stone should be a top line player for at least 5 years. That's all we need from him at this juncture. If he regresses to 2nd and 3rd lne 2-way guy, then so be it. He'll always have his hockey IQ.

This is where the longterm deals like Schmidt, Tuch, Theodore and short term signings like Stastny Patches start to really benefit the team. The team might also have internal projections of an 84m+ cap that the public isn't aware of yet.

We still need a top 4 defender and we are pretty tight against the cap next season let alone if we would want to keep Gusev. I thought we could spend this big money on a defenseman but a forward makes it trickier to me.
 

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We still need a top 4 defender and we are pretty tight against the cap next season let alone if we would want to keep Gusev. I thought we could spend this big money on a defenseman but a forward makes it trickier to me.
Here's hoping Hague can step up to the task, and soon at that.
 
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