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Compare Stone to someone else's case then. It turns out Weber's situation is the closest similarity to Stone's, UFA or RFA and that's why it was brought it up.
I know it's not a popular opinion, but I do think Dorion is smarter than this and something else is holding him back from being able to make any kind of financial commitments at the moment.
This aspect alone makes the two situations not close at all.Compare Stone to someone else's case then. It turns out Weber's situation is the closest similarity to Stone's, UFA or RFA.
You really should read up on what it means to be an RFA vs UFA.Compare Stone to someone else's case then. It turns out Weber's situation is the closest similarity to Stone's, UFA or RFA.
Stone to Minny e4......Last time this happened with a similar calibre player was Parise I believe.
Not the case.
EM can't afford the massive cash-up-front bonus pay outs of new star contracts. We know this based on the debt refinancing, and the known financial issues. There is no way that he would or could commit to paying those deals (guaranteed contracts) without a new ownership deal signed and sealed.
Conversely, new ownership couldn't and wouldn't guarantee payment of any funds until the ink was dry on a deal, how could they, they don't own anything. What we're seeing is very likely what the team (PD) CAN do while the negotiations are on going. He can:
- Hold on to EK, maybe appeasing EM by saying that he's listening to offers...
- Hold on to Duchene
- Make small moves to make Bellville better
- Sign Stone to solid contract raise, for 1 year without massive bonuses, and avoid an oft negative arbitration process so as not to soil their relationship
- Stay away from all media and let the process unfold as quickly as possible.
In a traditional way this off season doesn't make any sense, it looks Ludacris, but in the scope of an ownership change negotiation it makes perfect sense, even down to the new front office hire, people that are already in place to manage the arrival of an ownership change announcement.
Not lame duck, on the verge of popping off brother!
And he signed with a new team the next offseason.Last time this happened with a similar calibre player was Parise I believe.
lmao you clearly don't or you wouldn't call it comparable.As if you think i don't know the difference been a rfa and ufa. Why do you choose to overeact?
I would not be at all surprised by this, and if so I would think Stone, Duchene & Karlsson would not be willing to sign even if we did pony up for their contracts. If this is the plan though, I think they would have been more proactive with moving them out this summer, so personally I think something else is happening with ownership and they hope to be able to sign them after the behind the scenes stuff is sorted out.I do agree with the sentiment.
The question is, whether it's actually an ownership equity shift, or if it is just the internal budget has been ratcheted all the way down to the cap floor.
If it looks unlikely that Stone, EK or Duchene will extend, then tear it down. You can get 6-10 quality assets for those three at the deadline. Then you suck in 2019-2020, pray for Lafreniere and have one of the best young teams in the league by 2022-23.
Ah my bad. A 1 year is still bad news bears thoughThey avoided arbitration
Based on our last 6 months and our current contract status of almost nobody under contract past next year (other than 3 players we wish weren't signed lol), it's probably more that he can't afford to make the long term financial commitments at the moment.So is Melnyk seriously not prepared to sign ANY good players long term? He knows there is a cap floor, right?
The loan from the other month was actually used to pay Bettman to remove the cap floor.So is Melnyk seriously not prepared to sign ANY good players long term? He knows there is a cap floor, right?
As if you think i don't know the difference between a rfa and ufa. Why do you choose to overeact?
I'll watch the first month to see if we pull off a miracle and actually play well, but if suck(and we probably will) I'm ignoring the rest of the season for the most part.This is going to be a terrible year of Sens hockey. Frig. Zero things to look forward to from an off-season perspective, no light at the end of the tunnel in our high pick, trade talk will constantly loom over our 3 best players, and we have done nothing to improve the 2nd last place team, in fact we have become worse.
Going to be a long one.
Hopefully Belleville is decent. I could see myself doing some road trips there and with the Habs being garbage too, I'll probably look to scoop up some cheap Habs tickets on short notice and go visit friends in Montreal to take in a game.This is going to be a terrible year of Sens hockey. Frig. Zero things to look forward to from an off-season perspective, no light at the end of the tunnel in our high pick, trade talk will constantly loom over our 3 best players, and we have done nothing to improve the 2nd last place team, in fact we have become worse.
Going to be a long one.
Yeah take another guess hero, dont need your definition of what a true fan is. I am not going to support a team that wont commit to its fanbase after 25 plus years of being a fan and literally spending over 100 grand on this organization in my lifetime. Pretty tired of your petty comments, if you dont like me or agree with me then just hit the ignore button. If you're not going to do that then keep the cheap shots to yourself.