Confirmed with Link: Marino signs long-term deal: 6 x 4.4m

[Peat]

I still think Letang gets traded and they run with Marino, Dumoulin, Matheson and Pettersson as their top-4.

You've got a lot more faith than me in Matheson making it here and being able to switch sides. And maybe more faith than me in Letang's trade value too.

He has 60 games of experience. He had no leverage.

He can refuse to put pen to paper until the end of next season and increase that leverage if that's the issue.

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

Awesome deal!!! As people have said this deal already is a good deal even without improvement. When Marino went down that is when the Pens went on that bad losing streak towards the end of the season and I don't think that was a coincidence. That moved Schultz into top 4 minutes and he was terrible. Marino gave us Dumoulin like defense with much more offense. 6 goals and 26 points in 56 games with very little PP time is close to 40 point range as a rookie. When Letang hangs them up in a few years Marino playing on the top PP could reach 50+ points and easily 40+ points a year. I see his upside as a legit number 1 defenseman. At worst he is a more offensive Dumoulin who has been a solid number 2 for us for the past several years.

I love this deal locking Marino up much more than the Pettersson deal. I always felt the Pettersson deal was fair but see him as just an average 2nd pairing defenseman. That is worth his contract and maybe he can put on some weight and turn into a Dumoulin like player but I thought that contract was no bargain like this one.

My hope is that Matheson shines in our system and POJ keeps developing nicely and we trade Pettersson for a nice young forward at some point. Having 5 defenseman making $4+ million a year is a little bit much.

 

[Empoleon8771]

You've got a lot more faith than me in Matheson making it here and being able to switch sides. And maybe more faith than me in Letang's trade value too.

I don't think it will be a trade value question, it will be JR trying another "shake up the team" move and Letang's really the only guy left.

It is dependent on Marino and Matheson of course, but I don't think Letang's value really plays a huge role in here.

 

[KIRK]

He has 60 games of experience. He had no leverage.

The alternative was 3 more years after his entry level deal with restricted rights.

If he kills it, then he left some back loaded money on the table. If he's marginally improved, then the earnings are probably a wash. If not, then he's probably a little better off for it.

I get it. The certainty of being set for life chosen over the potential to maybe earn a few million more starting in 2025.

 

[KIRK]

I don't think it will be a trade value question, it will be JR trying another "shake up the team" move and Letang's really the only guy left.

It is dependent on Marino and Matheson of course, but I don't think Letang's value really plays a huge role in here.

I suppose.

Then again, I never underestimate JR's penchant for stupidity when it comes to shaking up the team.

 

[Turin]

He was worth way more just last year so, yea. No issues here.

 

[Peat]

I don't think it will be a trade value question, it will be JR trying another "shake up the team" move and Letang's really the only guy left.

It is dependent on Marino and Matheson of course, but I don't think Letang's value really plays a huge role in here.

I guess that's a possibility, although part of me wonders if Rutherford's still in position if they need to go shaking the team up again next off-season.

 

[Tom Hanks]

 

[Empoleon8771]

I guess that's a possibility, although part of me wonders if Rutherford's still in position if they need to go shaking the team up again next off-season.

I think even if JR gets canned next off-season, whoever coming in would want to make a similar impact as what JR would want to make. Just like when JR came in and traded Neal in his first off-season here.

 

[KIRK]

Awesome deal!!! As people have said this deal already is a good deal even without improvement. When Marino went down that is when the Pens went on that bad losing streak towards the end of the season and I don't think that was a coincidence. That moved Schultz into top 4 minutes and he was terrible. Marino gave us Dumoulin like defense with much more offense. 6 goals and 26 points in 56 games with very little PP time is close to 40 point range as a rookie. When Letang hangs them up in a few years Marino playing on the top PP could reach 50+ points and easily 40+ points a year. I see his upside as a legit number 1 defenseman. At worst he is a more offensive Dumoulin who has been a solid number 2 for us for the past several years.

I love this deal locking Marino up much more than the Pettersson deal. I always felt the Pettersson deal was fair but see him as just an average 2nd pairing defenseman. That is worth his contract and maybe he can put on some weight and turn into a Dumoulin like player but I thought that contract was no bargain like this one.

My hope is that Matheson shines in our system and POJ keeps developing nicely and we trade Pettersson for a nice young forward at some point. Having 5 defenseman making $4+ million a year is a little bit much.

I'd much rather play Marino with Matheson than Pets. I'm not a fan of Pets deal because he's just so vanilla for the cost, but leaving that aside the Pets-Marino pairing is brutally soft.

 

[Pens x]

I still think Letang gets traded and they run with Marino, Dumoulin, Matheson and Pettersson as their top-4.

Let’s first see how Matheson plays here...

 

[KIRK]

I think even if JR gets canned next off-season, whoever coming in would want to make a similar impact as what JR would want to make. Just like when JR came in and traded Neal in his first off-season here.

Whoever replaces JR, even if it's next summer, won't have the luxury of Crosby at 27 and Malkin at 28 to leverage. He'll get the 7 year older versions.

 

[KIRK]

Let’s first see how Matheson plays here...

Paired with Ceci . . . what could go wrong?

Paired with Marino . . . ****, Marino made Jack Johnson look passable.

 

[Shady Machine]

Sometimes JRs tendency to sign everyone to long terms pays off!!

Excellent value. As for Marino, it’s always hard to put ourselves in someone’s shoes like that. 18 months ago, he was a solid college prospect that didn’t have a clear path in the Oilers org. Now he’s a top 4 dman on one of the most successful franchises in the last 30 years and they want to sign you to a 7 year deal worth nearly $30m. I don’t blame him at all for taking the guaranteed money.

 

[TySmith4Norris]

This is a really really good deal

Optimistic that the point production will come with JJ and Schultz gone, but even if it doesn’t he’s basically making the same cap hit as Ian Cole

 

[K Fleur]

I like this deal a hell of a lot more than the Pets extension.

It’s real easy to like Marino more than Petts

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

4.4 is jack shit compared to the clown money majority of the top 4 D make today.

 

[TNT87]

This was a pleasant surprise.

 

[Tom Hanks]

 

[Clare2904]

Bien sûr.

My darling

 

[Will Hunting]

Love this proactivity, that's how you win in business imo. You wait one more year and it's probable that you have no chance to sign this. You do this now and it has potential to be one of the best contracts in NHL.

 

[EightyOne]

Thinking this will work well and not be a Schultz or DP2.0

 

[ColePens]

So f***ing happy. Marino is so damn good. That money will look laughable. I'm glad he gets paid. Very happy for the kid and for us.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

I don't think it will be a trade value question, it will be JR trying another "shake up the team" move and Letang's really the only guy left.

It is dependent on Marino and Matheson of course, but I don't think Letang's value really plays a huge role in here.

If Matheson turns things around here, and if he could make the successful transition to RD...he might just be used as insurance in case Letang asks for too much as a 35 year old UFA.

But a lot can happen in 2 years. Maybe Maniscalco somehow turns out to be even better than Marino and neither Letang or Matheson plays a top 4 role for the Pens in Fall 2022.

 

[ziggyjoe212]

2022 summer will be interesting. Geno, Tanger, and Rust will be UFA's. Looks like 2022 could be the start of the end of an era.