Confirmed with Link: Marcus Johansson to the Wild for Eric Staal
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Dr Jan Itor
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I have no idea who would've fought you, this year, about Dubnyk not being on the NHL team.
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Totally different, as our GM is using marketing hype to get Rask included as the + in the next trade.
Staal being upset about how the trade went down speaks more to the issue at hand that Guerin is trying to address than anything else anyone here is trying to portray.
God forbid he’s treated like most any other professional in sports, or otherwise.
It was still a terrible trade value-wise, but why am I to care if Staal was consulted or consoled?
God forbid he’s treated like most any other professional in sports, or otherwise.
It was still a terrible trade value-wise, but why am I to care if Staal was consulted or consoled?
Actually you're right; I'm sorry. You and I debate a lot, but in this case it was MuckOG and Bazeek and Prior I was discussing sending Dubnyk down with.
If I recall, the only thing being argued was that Dubnyk would have to agree to it for it to even be allowed, and that's what the debate was... not whether the Wild should of they could. It didn't matter, because he'd have never agreed to it.
This excerpt taken from the Sabres Athletic reporter's article on acquiring Staal,
"The Sabres forced Johansson into an unsuitable role, transferring him from a successful third-line left winger into an overmatched No. 2 center. Johansson’s numbers plummeted to stats that Staal has blown out of the water in 16 of his 18 seasons."
"The Sabres forced Johansson into an unsuitable role, transferring him from a successful third-line left winger into an overmatched No. 2 center. Johansson’s numbers plummeted to stats that Staal has blown out of the water in 16 of his 18 seasons."
"The Sabres forced Johansson into an unsuitable role, transferring him from a successful third-line left winger into an overmatched No. 2 center. Johansson’s numbers plummeted to stats that Staal has blown out of the water in 16 of his 18 seasons."
LOL, so we're looking at what Buffalo did and went, yep! Sounds right, we'll do the same thing and hope we get different results!
No way, we're not looking to do the same thing, we're going to take it a step further and make him the #1 C.
Totally different.
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Listen to you guys bitching.....was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
MoJO is younger and faster, yes. So is my son. Neither of the two are as good of a hockey player as Staal, and even in MoJo's case, it's not particularly close. Isn't the point to have better hockey players, and in this case better Centers? Does anyone think that Johnsson is a better Center than Eric Staal? Does anyone think that we need more middle six LW's, which is his usual position?
I could understand it if Staal was signed long term, or if we had too many Centers, or if Staal was an embarrassment to the organization in some way.
I could understand it if Staal was signed long term, or if we had too many Centers, or if Staal was an embarrassment to the organization in some way.
I'm not too concerned about the harshness of the news to Staal. Guerin didn't have to synch his words to the pauses between labor pains.
Reading Evason and Johansson's comments from Russo's article, it sounds like Evason thinks he can be effective at center. Specifically at being a guy that can get the puck to his wingers, which is where our strength is anyway. He's also said that moving back to the position last year took some adjusting, but that he felt better as the year went on.
I don't know, the plan still seems cockamamie to me but who knows? If this works and Staal hits the wall this year they look like geniuses. Worst case it's just a failed experiment with no long term commitments, and keeping Staal could have panned out the same way.
So you're saying that Evason didn't blow holes in his boss'es latest move? Imagine that!
Also, the Pearl Harbor analogy is only correct if you think the USA bombed themselves. I do get your point that this is probably only the difference between us finishing 18th next year, and 24th, but what if Kaprizov and Fiala look at this move, shake their heads, and tell their agents to get them out of here ASAP? Sort of like we are hoping Parise will do?
Also, the Pearl Harbor analogy is only correct if you think the USA bombed themselves. I do get your point that this is probably only the difference between us finishing 18th next year, and 24th, but what if Kaprizov and Fiala look at this move, shake their heads, and tell their agents to get them out of here ASAP? Sort of like we are hoping Parise will do?
It sounds more like Evason was a bigger factor here than I'd initially assumed.
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Was it Russo or someone else who either hinted or explicitly stated that being in a contract year could be a motivating factor, versus Staal who's probably pretty comfortable coasting until he retires.
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Yeah, I don't really hate the deal anymore. If anything it just doesn't make sense without other big moves following. Namely, a Parise trade. Which I know is easier said than done, but if he's really trying to throw a grenade into the locker room, Parise leaving will do that.
The reality is that as great as Staal is, last year he wasn't the same player he had been the 3 years prior and he is likely to be worse again next year. Can this team afford another 6 weeks of letting guys like Staal and Parise "warm up" so that we can spend the rest of the season playing catch-up?
I'm not trying to spin this as somehow good, but if Guerin and Evason want the team to get faster and younger then moving on now rather than next summer makes sense. I don't think they're trying to spin a move that they believe was bad.
When Fenton is better at etiquette when trading a player than Guerin, you're in trouble.
If he gets rid of Suter, Zuccs and Dubnyk, he'll be good for the next 10 years.
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