Marc Methot - "The Sens Will End Up Regretting Zub's Contract - He'll End Up A Third Pairing Guy"

[Cosmix]

The quote is paraphrased, but he's right that Zub has had a rough year. Thoughts?

A Senators ideal defence corp as Methot suggested would be excellent if the right UFAs were obtained:
Sanderson - UFA
Chabot - Chychrun
UFA/Kleven - Zub

The problem is that the cost for 2 UFAs to play on Pairs 1 and 3 would be high and the team likely could not afford such defencemen without reducing other salaries to be paid (e.g., not signing Debrincat, trading Joseph, using Forsberg and Sogaard in goal).

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

A Senators ideal defence corp as Methot suggested would be excellent if the right UFAs were obtained:
Sanderson - UFA
Chabot - Chychrun
UFA/Kleven - Zub

The problem is that the cost for 2 UFAs to play on Pairs 1 and 3 would be high and the team likely could not afford such defencemen without reducing other salaries to be paid (e.g., not signing Debrincat, trading Joseph, using Forsberg and Sogaard in goal).

and only tackles the D as an area needing improvement. . I am not arguing his points, but I think the D can hold its own with the additions of Chychrun and Kleven (granted he may be sent down for contract reasons). The goal tending and 3rd line depth are not addressed at all. I personally would consider those more urgent to address.

 

[Cosmix]

and only tackles the D as an area needing improvement. . I am not arguing his points, but I think the D can hold its own with the additions of Chychrun and Kleven (granted he may be sent down for contract reasons). The goal tending and 3rd line depth are not addressed at all. I personally would consider those more urgent to address.

Goaltending is certainly uncertain!

If the team would sign Formenton and run with Formenton-Pinto-Joseph I would be happy with the 3rd line.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Goaltending is certainly uncertain!

If the team would sign Formenton and run with Formenton-Pinto-Joseph I would be happy with the 3rd line.

It would be a much needed improvement . Not sold on Joseph

 

[Cosmix]

It would be a much needed improvement . Not sold on Joseph

Joseph would be OK at $1M but at $2.95M he is not performing to his salary.

 

[OD99]

Joseph would be OK at $1M but at $2.95M he is not performing to his salary.

That was pretty much as poorly as Joseph could play given the injuries, the odd healthy scratch when he was apparently ready to come back and the overall poor structure of the 3rd line thanks to Pinto moving up.

Might be Senators coloured glasses but I could see him having a very productive year with a decent LW and Pinto in the middle.

 

[GCK]

I think Methot is simply publicly campaigning to bring in a friend of his who wants to come here and happens to be a RD.

 

[MCNSTY]

Similar to when he and other local media started talking about bringing in Brassard this past offseason. Suddenly, he was brought in on a PTO.

 

[Micklebot]

I think Methot is simply publicly campaigning to bring in a friend of his who wants to come here and happens to be a RD.

Someone specific you have in mind?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That was pretty much as poorly as Joseph could play given the injuries, the odd healthy scratch when he was apparently ready to come back and the overall poor structure of the 3rd line thanks to Pinto moving up.

Might be Senators coloured glasses but I could see him having a very productive year with a decent LW and Pinto in the middle.

Have to reduce the "ifs" to the degree possible. We lean too heavily on too many ifs coming out our way we end up on the wrong side of them.,

 

[GCK]

Someone specific you have in mind?

Not John Klingberg

 

[Xspyrit]

Technically, Zub should be on the 3rd pair anyway. Go with chemistry and defensive efficiency


Chabot - Sanderson/Chychrun
Sanderson/Chychrun - JBD
Brannstrom - Zub


Roll them about equally at ES, give extra special units and game situations TOI accordingly so that Zub ends up as the #4, Brannstrom ends up as the #5 and JBD as the #6. The others are the Top-3

Can't invest more AAV on defense anyway, has to go to a 2nd guy to assist Forsberg and relocate DeBrincat's AAV on 2-way forwards (in the Connor/Nick mold)

 

[Cosmix]

That was pretty much as poorly as Joseph could play given the injuries, the odd healthy scratch when he was apparently ready to come back and the overall poor structure of the 3rd line thanks to Pinto moving up.

Might be Senators coloured glasses but I could see him having a very productive year with a decent LW and Pinto in the middle.

Joseph might have a good year next season if the 3rd line is improved which it should be with Pinto. I hope Formenton signs or the team acquires someone who can augment Pinto and Joseph.

 

[OD99]

Have to reduce the "ifs" to the degree possible. We lean too heavily on too many ifs coming out our way we end up on the wrong side of them.,

Fair enough.

I do think injuries played a big part with our team this year due to our lack of depth and having guys slot in the right spots can have a positive impact.

 

[StoicSensFan]

Someone specific you have in mind?

 

[Micklebot]

I thought Methot was suggesting a UFA, SJ going to buy out Karl to make it happen?

 

[StoicSensFan]

I thought Methot was suggesting a UFA, SJ going to buy out Karl to make it happen?

No idea, but this is his only RD friend I could think of.

 

[DaveMatthew]

I thought Methot was suggesting a UFA, SJ going to buy out Karl to make it happen?

- Trade Debrincat for futures
- Trade futures acquired from Debrincat deal to trade for Karlsson at 20% retained
- Trade Chabot for Debrincat replacement
- Profit?

Ryan Reynolds is trying to get Gareth Bale to join Wrexham... big names get him excited...

 

[coladin]

Yeah, he tweeted that, but listening to him, he thinks Kleven will pass him in relatively short order

 

[aragorn]

Joseph, Brannstrom & Forsberg's salaries would help pay Hellebuyck's salary, Greig played for Brandon & might warrant some interest & Thomson is a right hand D with a big shot, the 2nd rd pick is more incentive for them. Formenton & Jarventie could also be pieces in a trade depending on what Winn wants.

To Winn: Joseph RW/LW, Forsberg G, (Brannstrom LD or Thomson RD), Greig C/LW & 2024 2nd
To Ott: Hellebuyck G

Tkachuk - Stutzle - DBC
Formenton - Norris - Giroux
Jarventie - Pinto - Batherson
Ostapchuck - Kastelic - Sokolov/Sabourin

Chabot - Zub
Sanderson - Chychrun
Kleven - JBD/Hamonic

Hellebuyck - Sogaard

 

[Cosmix]

That was pretty much as poorly as Joseph could play given the injuries, the odd healthy scratch when he was apparently ready to come back and the overall poor structure of the 3rd line thanks to Pinto moving up.

Might be Senators coloured glasses but I could see him having a very productive year with a decent LW and Pinto in the middle.

Joseph started off in Ottawa with a bang as his few games with the team last season were VG. Since then I do not think he has been playing with the same quality of line-mates. He definitely has potential to be better due to his speed.