Marc Bergevin's Actual 2019 Draft List

[Canadienna]

Bergevin wasn't entirely sure who Spencer Knight was. I don't think it's his list. It's the Habs'.

Als0, there were three guys they wanted, because he states that Minnesota, Florida, and Philly are yet to pick and Timmins says they need "one more help, we need Florida to take the goalie".

Lol it seemed to me like Bergy had very little knowledge about it. TBH I'd prefer it that way, let the scouts do their job and don't get attached personally to prospects.

But he still should have known who Knight was.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Lol it seemed to me like Bergy had very little knowledge about it. TBH I'd prefer it that way, let the scouts do their job and don't get attached personally to prospects.

But he still should have known who Knight was.

Meh, given that we have Price and Primeau in the prospect pool, I'll cut him some slack since it's not a name that he should absolutely know based on team needs. If he didn't know Boldy or Soderstrom, now I'd be mad.

 

[tealhockey]

Lol it seemed to me like Bergy had very little knowledge about it. TBH I'd prefer it that way, let the scouts do their job and don't get attached personally to prospects.

But he still should have known who Knight was.

Feels like anyone in hockey should have known about Knight considering how dumb loaded that NTDP team was. If you have like 5 of their guys as top candidates in the first round wouldn't you spend some time on the group? But yes maybe he is just totally detached from the scouting operations, which is just fine I suppose. Do think Knight would have been an interesting candidate for them, he might have been available there and you lock down a potential successor for Price if Primeau doesn't pan out

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Why didn't the habs go with Krebs at 15 if they had him rated higher then Caufield?

Also looks like Habs may have picked Kaliyev at 15 if Caufield and Krebs weren't available(York and Soderstrom)

injuries I presume

 

[Castle8130]

A lot of teams were concerned with Krebs injury and the habs were probably not happy with what they saw after doing further research.

 

[bukwas]

I think it was Caufield + Krebs that they were hoping for. Not sure why they highlighted Krebs at 6; maybe he was ranked there before his injury and they decided to pick him at the end of that top 11 list if he was the last player available?

Hard to say, really. Still think Caufield is an awesome pick for them! Had him personnally at #5.

Always like those videos. Vancouver/Arizona made behind the scene draft videos last year that were also pretty interesting. Are there others of this year draft?

The Leafs put out a little 10 minute one(found it after this one) but it's nothing exciting. The highlight is Kypreos seeing Dubas enter the room/lobby, Nick is looking quite excited and attempts some dialogue with Dubas but Kyle has zero interest and blows right past the buffoon.

 

[Legend123]

Why didn't the habs go with Krebs at 15 if they had him rated higher then Caufield?

Also looks like Habs may have picked Kaliyev at 15 if Caufield and Krebs weren't available(York and Soderstrom)

Regarding Kaliyev, if that were true, the Habs would have traded up to acquire him. Kaliyev was likely never a real option for the habs given the way they treat players like him...

 

[PuckProspects]

Lol it seemed to me like Bergy had very little knowledge about it. TBH I'd prefer it that way, let the scouts do their job and don't get attached personally to prospects.

But he still should have known who Knight was.

I think he knew who he was he simply didn't hear the name they announced at first and asked if it was the goalie that Florida took

 

[ProspectsFanatic]

Regarding Kaliyev, if that were true, the Habs would have traded up to acquire him. Kaliyev was likely never a real option for the habs given the way they treat players like him...

I wouldn't be surprised if the shortlist of
12. Cozens
13. Broberg
14. Knight
15. Kaliyev

isn't actually 12/13/14/15. It might be a shortlist of players they expected with relatively high chances to be drafted in the top15 which they aren't interested in, just written on the list to track all the players. Kaliyev and Knight wouldn't be surprising, red flag Kaliyev compete, goalie not a need, and Cozens/Broberg similarly had big questions marks on their IQ, maybe it was deemed as red flags for the Habs. Would the Habs really would have taken Knight assuming all the players before would have been taken? Could be wrong though.

 

[Canadienna]

I wouldn't be surprised if the shortlist of
12. Cozens
13. Broberg
14. Knight
15. Kaliyev

isn't actually 12/13/14/15. It might be a shortlist of players they expected with relatively high chances to be drafted in the top15 which they aren't interested in, just written on the list to track all the players. Kaliyev and Knight wouldn't be surprising, red flag Kaliyev compete, goalie not a need, and Cozens/Broberg similarly had big questions marks on their IQ, maybe it was deemed as red flags for the Habs. Would the Habs really would have taken Knight assuming all the players before would have been taken? Could be wrong though.

You might be right that they separated them because they wouldn't take them, but they did write 12-15 in the number column next to them. You can make out the numbers 14 and 15.

They also wrote " Could go before 15" before that list of guys. Which supports the idea of tiers of guys. As others have mentioned, the list on the right may be the guys they would target at 17 if they made the deal that was offered.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Seider was really the 2nd best Dman in the draft. Detroit must not have liked the risk of trading down & watching Holland pick Seider at #8.
Chicago went with the 'Safe' pick, a guy who's floor is a poor mans version of Getzlaf.
I think Chicago wants to return to the playoffs sooner than later & Dach should be more physically ready than Turcotte/Zegras.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Why Krebs was ranked 6th but went with Caufield.....injuries?

Pretty sure Krebs messed up his ACL like a week before the draft. Probably made his stock fall a lot

 

[Michoulicious]

Pretty sure Krebs messed up his ACL like a week before the draft. Probably made his stock fall a lot

Ruptured his achilles tendon.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Lassi Thomson more well regarded than heinola

I think that could be Tomasino vs Thomas and that might make more sense on the ranking. The writing isn't clear to me as presented.

 

[Gordie07]

On the right, I'm seeing Bjornfot at #2, between Newhook and Heinola.

The nine players listed after Hughes and Kakko were probably closely grouped, given where Zegras and Dach were ranked versus where they were actually drafted. Taking that into consideration, the selection of Caufield instead of Krebs isn't as surprising. In the video, Trevor Timmins explains that the Canadiens look for strong, defining attributes that will help a player succeed in the NHL, so it's possible that they gave Caufield the edge based on his scoring ability, shot, and/or skating.

 

[benjiv1]

I think that could be Tomasino vs Thomas and that might make more sense on the ranking. The writing isn't clear to me as presented.

Pretty sure it’s Thomson, the TH is pretty clear.

 

[benjiv1]

On the right, I'm seeing Bjornfot at #2, between Newhook and Heinola.

The nine players listed after Hughes and Kakko were probably closely grouped, given where Zegras and Dach were ranked versus where they were actually drafted. Taking that into consideration, the selection of Caufield instead of Krebs isn't as surprising. In the video, Trevor Timmins explains that the Canadiens look for strong, defining attributes that will help a player succeed in the NHL, so it's possible that they gave Caufield the edge based on his scoring ability, shot, and/or skating.

Not sure how you see a B in there, I think the TH is pretty clear.

 

[Gordie07]

I straightened the image out a bit, and while it's still unclear and open to interpretation, I'm seeing 'Bjornfot' in the second spot.

What I'm seeing -

1. The first letter is a wide capital 'B', with a single vertical stroke forming the left, straight side of the 'B'. That vertical stroke is crossed by the start of the upper loop of the 'B', and the upper loop doesn't continue completely back to connect with the vertical stroke, but continues into a wider lower loop that also doesn't continue all the way back to the vertical stroke to fully complete the letter. I think where the upper loop crosses the vertical stroke can be misinterpreted to be a lowercase 't', and the loops can be misinterpreted as the upper loop being the ascending part of a lowercase 'h' with the lower, wider loop looking like the base of the 'h'.

2. Adjacent to what I believe is an uppercase 'B', there is a letter that descends towards the 'H' in Heinola. I think that's a lowercase 'j'.

3. The central area is unclear but doesn't seem to have any ascending or descending parts.

4. Around the beginning of the last third of the word, there appears, to me anyways, a letter that both ascends and descends a bit, like a cursive lowercase 'f'.

5. Right after what I think is an 'f', there is a letter that neither ascends or descends, and then the final letter is taller and appears to be crossed, like a lowercase 't'.

The first letter looks like a wide capital 'B' to me, and all of the ascending and descending parts of the word are consistent with 'Bjornfot'. 'Thomson' has no ascending parts after the first two letters and no descending parts at all. Despite what appears to be a (lowercase, when every other name is capitalized?) 't', then 'h', the rest of 'thomson' is inconsistent with what is on the page.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Pretty sure it’s Thomson, the TH is pretty clear.

Looks like an o at the end. I agree it looks like Th... Thomasino maybe

 

[mazmin]

This was obtained from the Behind the scenes video that surfaced today that showed them on the draft floor.

I just tweaked the photo slightly to make it easier to see. So far I'm pretty sure it looks like

1.Hughes
2.Kakko
3.Zegras
4.Byram
5.Turcotte
6.Krebs
7. Boldy
8.Podkolzin
9.Dach
10.Caufield
11.Seider

Here he writes

"Could go before 15"

12. Cozens
13. Broberg
14. Knight
15. Kaliyev

List on the right is separate. What I can make out is

1. Newhook
2. Thomson
3. Heinola
4. Harley
5. Soderstrom
6. Suzuki
7. York
8. Poulin


Minato is God also got this one which shows the left side in more detail.



I'll give credit to Viggo Mortensen for the idea.





What do you guys think? Anyone have any other examples of team lists getting out post draft? Is it surprising that the third overall pick is ranked 9 here? What about Cozens at 12 and Kaliyev at 15.

Shows how different each team evaluates talent. I agree with Zegras at #3 and Byram right after. But clearly Chicago felt Dach was the best of the rest.

Love seeing these!

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Regarding Kaliyev, if that were true, the Habs would have traded up to acquire him. Kaliyev was likely never a real option for the habs given the way they treat players like him...

THe thing is, Kaliyev is not an "attitude problem" the kid is just different, he is probably on the spectrum a little bit, IMO I would choose a player like him any day over an attitude problem player like, lets say, tippett.

 

[benjiv1]

Looks like an o at the end. I agree it looks like Th... Thomasino maybe

I was thinking the same thing, but there was some confirmation somewhere that Montreal was high on Thomson, so I think the writing is just messy.

 

[montreal]

Going into the draft the Habs didn't think Caufield would be there and the rumors were that they might move down, so perhaps they had 2 sides, one to pick and one for if they move down then who do they want.

As for Thomson, a former Hab scout that's very connected to Timmins said that the Habs were high on Thomson, so either they were or it was a smoke screen.

 

[TT1]

Habs were reported to be high on Thompson by Grant, he's usually right about that sorta thing on draft day.

 

[Mats26]

Seider was really the 2nd best Dman in the draft. Detroit must not have liked the risk of trading down & watching Holland pick Seider at #8.
Chicago went with the 'Safe' pick, a guy who's floor is a poor mans version of Getzlaf.
I think Chicago wants to return to the playoffs sooner than later & Dach should be more physically ready than Turcotte/Zegras.

Hawks will regret not taking Byram. From what I can see on these "lists" Bjornfot can end up being a steal at 22.