News Article: Marc Bergevin officially out?

[CristianoRonaldo]

We need change, you can even bring Youppi for all I care...

 

[CaptainKirk]

We need change, you can even bring Youppi for all I care...

*Habs GM on line 1*
Opposing GM: “Yes, hello?”
Youppi: “…”
OGM: “Hello? What would you like to discuss?“
Youppi: “…”
OGM: “HELLO!?”

 

[Andy]

Can we just go back to GMs being in the background and not having to be a star along with the players?

I'll give Roy a chance if he's the one, but please, no more egos. No more people who's minds get clouded by how they think people are perceiving them.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Patrick hates losing. Bergevin removed that “no excuses” sign pretty quickly.

Patrick has a huge ego but guys loved playing for him. Bergevin has a huge ego, and most guys don’t like his negotiating style. Other than the ones he likes.

Patrick has won at every level as a player and a manager. Bergevin has not, and continues to fail his way into minor successes.

Bergevin isn’t getting the job done. It’s painfully obvious is it not by this point? He’s pissed away every opportunity he’s had, and he’s had a ton, and the team is still without an identity. Some of it isn’t his fault, but most of it is…

Patrick is one of the few guys with the stones to actually burn down the old boys club that’s set up shop, he’s got the pedigree that keeps the media in check, he’s a Franco, and he loves (and thrives under) the spotlight. And whatever he does, you know he’d be entertaining at least.

MB is, and has been one of the most popular people in hockey for a long time. Roy on the other hand [MOD] as up and quit on the only two NHL organizations that he has worked for in addition to the well documented off ice issues. As a player he was a primadona who threw teammates under the bus and expected preferential treatment. This man is the opposite of Jean Beliveau and lacks the class and temperament required to represent and run a franchise like the Canadiens. Patrick has always put his own needs before the organizations, and there were times as a player that this may have worked but not as a GM with the autonomy that he will demand.

Patrick is unqualified and ill suited to be the GM of any NHL team let alone the most storied hockey franchise in the world.

 

[Hannibal]

Roy would be the worst choice ever.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Please edit the title of this thread as it is incorrect and intentionally misleading. "Officially out" means that he is out.......there is no evidence to support this claim nor is there any evidence past speculation that such a move is even being considered.

 

[HabsForHire]

I wouldn't mind Roy, if we suck and lose at least it would be entertaining than this boring crap

 

[BLONG7]

I think it's a disaster if true.

Not that Bergevin is leaving, but that Roy could be his replacement. A potentially Rejean Houle-level blunder.

Bergevin is on Reggie's level.....at this point, can a Patrcik Roy be any better? Who knows....Bergevin wants to leave, and I am ok with that...

 

[WeThreeKings]

Patrick Roy would be an absolute disaster.. as would Mathieu Darche who is only getting any credit since he joined the Tampa Bay buzz saw late.

Grab someone who was part of the actual success of Tampa Bay from the beginning or get someone like Martin Madden who has at minimum been involved in scouting staffs who don't f*** up the selection/development of every first rounder they make.

 

[BLONG7]

By all accounts, Rejean Houle is a very nice man in every day life. He just isn't a savy GM.

Roy is a bit of a prick in certain ways, but MAY be a very savy GM. Being a prick has one good thing about it: he does things his way, and isn't trying to make anybody happy. He would have a vision and stick to it. Now whether it's a good vision is obviously the key.

The passion to win............is his mantra.
Patrcik Roy will want to win............end of story.
Reggie Houle was not a GM, but a puppet for Corey and the Mol$on ownership group.

 

[Seb]

I have no idea what constitutes a good GM so at this point I'll take anybody as long as Bergevin is gone and hope he's not worse.

10 years of suckage is a long time.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The passion to win............is his mantra.
Patrcik Roy will want to win............end of story.
Reggie Houle was not a GM, but a puppet for Corey and the Mol$on ownership group.

Being irrational about wanting to win is why the Montreal Canadiens have been unsuccessful for as long as we have.

There's no patience or design, there's no vision.. there's simply a desire for mediocrity and be 'in' games all the time. Patrick Roy would be no exception to this, we would quickly see the decimation of prospects and picks to grab more veteran players to try to squeeze more blood out of a stone.

We need an intelligent, calculated individual. Sam Pollock was successful because he identified market inefficiencies and exploited it, he knew the value of draft picks and development, he knew when to trade veterans to teams who were on their way down trying to make the most of their last gasps.

We need an architect, not egotistical morons who move irrationally all the time to satiate their need for the now.

 

[bobholly39]

Bergevin is on Reggie's level.....at this point, can a Patrcik Roy be any better? Who knows....Bergevin wants to leave, and I am ok with that...

Ive been a defender of Bergevin last couple of years as i believe he's done some great moves. But i am also getting the feeling he wants to leave. If he does - leave now. Why wait a year? If the passion is gone, cut your ties right away and replace him

As for Roy - odds are he's great or horrible, no middle ground. If nothing else - he's sure to be entertaining and the opposite of passive (which Bergevin is, to the extreme)

 

[Tuggy]

No interest in having a lame duck GM when we've got a promising core and no clear direction. Bergevin should move out on a high note and let the next guy make the hard decisions.

Agreed 100%.

It's time to make a change.

At this point I don't care who it is, but something needs to be done.

Thanks for locking up Suzuki Bergevin, but we need someone in charge who's going to be here long term.

 

[Schooner Guy]

Because getting Patrick Roy instead of extending Bergevin due to all Price success was clearly a better idea.

Also it's known that Molson is a known idiot in the hockey sphere , proof he hasnt fired this clown after 10 years.

Anyways this org will always get french canadian candidates , might as well be him than Vincent Damphousse or freaking Mathieu Darche .

Patrick Roy has had very little success with the Remparts in recent years despite having much deeper resources than other teams. He'd be so far over his head in the NHL with a salary cap and with much smarter people running other NHL teams hockey ops.

 

[NeptunesTrident]

They need a GM who will tear it down and rebuild it. They need someone with a long term view. I'm not sure Patrick Roy is that guy.

 

[BLONG7]

Being irrational about wanting to win is why the Montreal Canadiens have been unsuccessful for as long as we have.

There's no patience or design, there's no vision.. there's simply a desire for mediocrity and be 'in' games all the time. Patrick Roy would be no exception to this, we would quickly see the decimation of prospects and picks to grab more veteran players to try to squeeze more blood out of a stone.

We need an intelligent, calculated individual. Sam Pollock was successful because he identified market inefficiencies and exploited it, he knew the value of draft picks and development, he knew when to trade veterans to teams who were on their way down trying to make the most of their last gasps.

We need an architect, not egotistical morons who move irrationally all the time to satiate their need for the now.

Some great points............could this guy be a good GM? I would rather someone with experience, and hate the idea of shortchanging ourselves again, with the franco only, especially with the GM chair....
Whoever it may be, it's time for a change.......3 years of missed playoffs, followed by w years of Covid playoffs, which we would not have made it, if we were not in a pandemic....Bergevin has to go...the cinderella run was great, but this guy has to go...

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Patrick Roy has had very little success with the Remparts in recent years despite having much deeper resources than other teams. He'd be so far over his head in the NHL with a salary cap and with much smarter people running other NHL teams hockey ops.

We're already in that situation and IMO, Roy is smarter than Bergevin. Roy also has more clout, not only vs other managers, but also vs Molson.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Garry Valk]

Sources told him they met last spring...

At first glance the article is odd, but Molson’s cottage isn’t far from Granby, so it kind of makes sense they’d have a scoop.

 

[Milhouse40]

Roy would be more of the same.....another rookie GM with absolutely 0 experience for the job BUT the medias and casual fans will be thrill cause it's a familiar name and will invent stories about how great he is and this team will stay where they've been for that last 25 years. But it will get some people in the Bell Center.

Patrick Roy is not even on my list of candidates.....at least not in the top 20.

 

[Schwang]

Indeed Roy would be no better. His ego is even bigger than Bergevin's. They have to stop locking themselves in this franco box and open up to looking at everyone no matter the language they speak.



Ya that's what they need, a guy that in all these years has never become a GM and has no experience at any level in the position.

I think it's the wrong choice, but I don't think MB has an ego. Just because a GM stays the course, right or wrong, doesn't mean he has an ego. He's doing what he believes is right. It's what a gm does. We may disagree with him, but I've seen nothing to indicate ego.

 

[Milhouse40]

We're already in that situation and IMO, Roy is smarter than Bergevin. Roy also has more clout, not only vs other managers, but also vs Molson.

If Roy was half smart he wouldn,t have done what he did the last time he was in the NHL.....not one NHL team wants to touch him with a ten foot pole since then and for a good reason.

 

[Naslundforever]

Molson should drop the "just speak French" part.

I'm sure those who only speak French would prefer a team that wins over a team that had a French speaking GM and if it has both, then great.

Habs limit themselves. They've been with the current GM (and other staff) too long.

Won’t happen, and although it is obviously a non useful constraint, it is 100% as much a part of people’s criteria for fun as is winning. Hockey = entertainment (there is no greater purpose or goal).

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

I'd rather keep MB than have Roy. The devil you know vs the devil that's unstable