Confirmed with Link: Maple Leafs re-sign Andreas Johnsson to 1 year, $787k two-way contract

[Clark4Ever]

Smart move. He has shown promise, but he needs to do it over a larger sample size to earn a multi year deal.

 

[AlmightyPO]

Bit confused here. If I am Johnsson and his agent, why would you not aim a bit higher?

I'm sure Dubas would've happily paid 1-1.5M at 2 years on a 1-way deal. I am not sure if he is waivers-exempt, but if he is and he falters he is losing big money as he'll be making AHL salary and if he isn't performing his next contract wont be much different than this. If he plays well this season, how much extra is he really making? Seems like there is loads of risk and limited gain here.

 

[uncleben]

This isn't really a steal for a player with 9 NHL regular season GP...

Would've liked a longer deal.
He'll ask for a raise next year

 

[Erndog]

Bit confused here. If I am Johnsson and his agent, why would you not aim a bit higher?

I'm sure Dubas would've happily paid 1-1.5M at 2 years on a 1-way deal. I am not sure if he is waivers-exempt, but if he is and he falters he is losing big money as he'll be making AHL salary and if he isn't performing his next contract wont be much different than this. If he plays well this season, how much extra is he really making? Seems like there is loads of risk and limited gain here.

He's not waiver exempt.

He's betting on himself here. He prob thinks he can come in this year, probably play with Naz on the 3rd line, get some PP and PK time, ~40 pts, and then next summer sign a 3-4 year deal around $2-3M (like Hyman and Brown did).

Why settle for 2 years at $1.25M, when 12 months from now he can prob get 3 years at $2.5M?

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Would've like a 2 or 3 year deal, but this is fine. Babcock will play on the 4th line for parts of the season to limit his production to get him a better deal.

 

[Daisy Jane]

Yeah, I wanted to get him locked up long-term early, before he has a chance to maximize his potential - Fine with players betting on themselves, though. Looking forward to seeing what he can do with a full year to prove himself.

someone mentioned this was the qualification deal. so if this was so, why only 1 year? interesting.

 

[Nooodles]

I don't really remember the last time someone accepted his QO. Nice to have him back, but he could ask for at least 2,5M next year if he has a really good year, and he has all the potential.

 

[SprDaVE]

Bit confused here. If I am Johnsson and his agent, why would you not aim a bit higher?

I'm sure Dubas would've happily paid 1-1.5M at 2 years on a 1-way deal. I am not sure if he is waivers-exempt, but if he is and he falters he is losing big money as he'll be making AHL salary and if he isn't performing his next contract wont be much different than this. If he plays well this season, how much extra is he really making? Seems like there is loads of risk and limited gain here.

Because he can get that next season (1M to 1.5M) easily with low and moderate production. If he plays to his potential, he can easily get over 2M per over a few years.

The risk is well worth it for him. He's going to play with good players in a prominent role.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

Brutal. I wanted him locked up for 4 years. Players like him and Kap are going to be our cap casualties over the next 2-3 years.

 

[IBeL34f]

someone mentioned this was the qualification deal. so if this was so, why only 1 year? interesting.

I believe all qualifying offers are 1-year term.

 

[Buds17]

Better deal for the team this season, better deal for Johnsson on his next contract. Should still work out well for both sides going forward.

 

[MJ65]

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Brutal. I wanted him locked up for 4 years. Players like him and Kap are going to be our cap casualties over the next 2-3 years.

that's the price of winning, as much as I like him

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

that's the price of winning, as much as I like him

What have the leafs won exactly?

 

[htpwn]

We have $15+ million in cap space. Johnsson being a bargain this year is irrelevant. A 2nd year was crucial, a 3rd ideal, due to the upcoming cap crunch. Instead it seems Johnsson bet on himself and Dubas couldn't convince him to take that extra year or two. He could be our first cap casualty as soon as next off-season depending on his production.

 

[Charles Chuck Finley]

Would've much preferred a two year deal for more money.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

What have the leafs won exactly?

did I say they have? I said the price of winning is to lose players to the salary cap. Look at teams that have won the cup lately and you'll see they've all had to lose good players

 

[Crysis]

What have the leafs won exactly?

The Tavares sweepstakes, the Matthews draft lottery, could add more.

 

[Muston Atthews]

What have the leafs won exactly?

The John Tavares sweepstakes

 

[JadedLeaf]

He is waiver eligible this year so yeah, he won't be sent down.

EA NHL games have really messed up peoples understanding of the two-way contracts. The amount of friends I have that thinks it means a player doesn't need to pass waivers to be sent down is pretty high lol

 

[AlmightyPO]

He's not waiver exempt.

He's betting on himself here. He prob thinks he can come in this year, probably play with Naz on the 3rd line, get some PP and PK time, ~40 pts, and then next summer sign a 3-4 year deal around $2-3M (like Hyman and Brown did).

Why settle for 2 years at $1.25M, when 12 months from now he can prob get 3 years at $2.5M?

If he can't be waived then it makes more sense, as no way the Leafs risk sending him down as he'd be claimed, so he is locked in at that salary. However, even so, my point is that the risk would seem much higher than potential benefit. I think my main point is that unless he has a HUGE year (which would be amazing) I think the potential increase in his value would not be worth the risk on his end.

Over three years, the wager he making is that he could make ~5.787 M ($787K x 1+ 2.5M x 2 (C. Brown's 20 goal season being the comparable)), while he likely could have made a guaranteed 3M in the first two years and whatever the next contract would be worth (say 2.75M given one extra year of development) = 5.75M (1.5 M x 2 + 2.75M x 1) if he negotiated with Dubas this season.

Obviously contract length matters, but I don't think this one year will earn him much more than 3 years, which I think he could have received this year. But he may blow us all out of the water this year, who knows.

 

[JadedLeaf]

someone mentioned this was the qualification deal. so if this was so, why only 1 year? interesting.

Not 100% sure but I think qualifying offers can only be for a single year. I just don't remember the last time a player accepted one one the Leafs.

 

[LeafFever]

What a steal. And he bumped Leo (LOl @ 4 years) out of the lineup.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

Would've much preferred a two year deal for more money.

“That’s the price of winning”.

What have they won?

“I didn’t say that”.

Lol

Edit. Wrong person I replied to.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

The Tavares sweepstakes, the Matthews draft lottery, could add more.

Great, we won a bunch of off seasons.

 

[jrgtml67]

So we have 15.5mill left to sign Nylander ahahaha, too good. Even more if we decide to LTIR Horton. I think we may not this year and do that next yr when 34 and 16 are up for new deals..which I still think we may well sign 2 or all 3 of them before summers end.

1. Tavares contract sets prescidence for the other 3. So him making 11m a yr bonus heavy deal, so lockout protected..I think the other 3 will be signing similar structured deals.

2. Mirtle has inside scoop and said before that our other 3 may take a lot less then people are thinking. Remember he knew about JT at 1245am July 1st but wasn't allowed to say officially. We know its true because Dubas said they were up till 4am doing contract work.

In summary JT took 2.5m less to play here. He and Matthews you can say are equal players..maybe Matthew's potential is higher due to age and he was hurt 4x last yr and still did well.

So Matthew's signs equal or 1 to 1.5mill less than JT. Marner deserves 8.5 to 9 but discount may take 7.5 7.775. Nylander 6 to 7mill..discount 5.5 to 6m.

Add it up

JT 11m
Matthew's 10.5m
Marner 7.75m
Nylander 6m

35.25million Total.

I added it up and with ltir Horton we would be over by 10mill next yr if the cap went up by 5mill. Good thing we have the best cap guys in the league