Managerial merry go round part II

Blueblood9

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Portuguese fan here and came to say I originally though spain would beat them 2 1 but now I do see a chance for victory

This whole situation was handled terribly from real to Lopetegui.

notify the Spanish nt, wait to announce etc he would have been able to coach out the tournament.
 

les Habs

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Laughable bullshit from Lopetegui and his new mafioso boss today.

In a relate note, apparently Pique had to act as mediator between Ramos and Rubiales. To think Ramos is a captain of anything.
 

Duchene2MacKinnon

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Laughable bull**** from Lopetegui and his new mafioso boss today.

In a relate note, apparently Pique had to act as mediator between Ramos and Rubiales. To think Ramos is a captain of anything.
Mad at Pique for stepping in should made them go at it. Ramos gets exiled and Spain further deteriorates. Better for Catalunya and Messi. :)
 

Duchene2MacKinnon

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Not the most prestigious gig for the 'best coach in the world'

He's the best coach's coach in the world. Just too volatile for teams. Over stays his welcome pretty quick. If he had the temperament of a Pep or Babcock, he would be buried in trophies. Although, you can argue that his loconess is why he's such an innovator.

Bielsa is a weirdo. He'll be gone before Christmas.

Bielsa is an Angel.
 
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Paulie Gualtieri

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God do I hope that Bayern ****s it up again and he goes to Leipzig instead. Rangnick announcing himself as interim manager for a year reeks of them positioning themselves to pounce if Hoeneß pulls a Hoeneß again.

Bild and Kicker are already reporting that he is going to Lepzig.
 
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KJS14

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He'll move to Leipzig only to lose Werner and Forsberg next summer (assuming they don't move now), and wish he had moved to the mighty Arsenal this year instead.
 

Havre

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Unusual decision. A whole year as lame duck at Hoffenheim doesn't sound like it's in the interest of that club. I guess nobody there cares that much.

Just don’t see how it is going to work. Even Ferguson couldn’t retire and keep the team performing until the end of the season.
 

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He'll move to Leipzig only to lose Werner and Forsberg next summer (assuming they don't move now), and wish he had moved to the mighty Arsenal this year instead.

Werner will be a blow even with the good work they’ve done...assuming Bayern don’t buy him this summer...but the talent in the extended RB family, and their resources, dwarf what Nagelsmann has been working with. Especially if he brings Geiger with him to anchor the midfield behind all of those 8s, wingers & shadow strikers that Leipzig has on the roster already.

I can’t wait to see what he can do there...just gotta make sure that they sell Upamecano & Konate to make space for Tah & Torunarigha to learn from Nagelsmann lol
 
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cgf

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Yeah, staying for another season and confirming your new club sounds like a disaster in the making..

Happens all the time in Germany with coaches & players. It only ever goes bad when it gets out publicly and there is a huge fan base/media presence to blow the story up, which doesn’t apply to Hopp’s village club.

Plus even when it goes public with a huge fanbase, it usually plays out like the Lewa transfer if the party in question is of high quality, like Nagelsmann
 
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Bon Esprit

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Just don’t see how it is going to work. Even Ferguson couldn’t retire and keep the team performing until the end of the season.
Nagelsmann is speculating, if it doesn't work Hoffenheim will kick him out. In that case he would take over RB immediatley. Rangnick would step aside happily and concentrate on his real job IMO.
 

cgf

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Nagelsmann is speculating, if it doesn't work Hoffenheim will kick him out. In that case he would take over RB immediatley. Rangnick would step aside happily and concentrate on his real job IMO.

Yeah, if it does go sour at TSG I would have to imagine that they’d make the change early...though I can’t help but see them at least in the top half of the table through the winter.

Even with the loss of Uth & Gnabry they still have some nice firepower ahead of that absolutely loaded midfield. Especially if Otto can make more of an impact as a first year pro, since he’s more physically developed than someone like JoJo or Werner was.
 

Bon Esprit

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Yeah, if it does go sour at TSG I would have to imagine that they’d make the change early...though I can’t help but see them at least in the top half of the table through the winter.

Even with the loss of Uth & Gnabry they still have some nice firepower ahead of that absolutely loaded midfield. Especially if Otto can make more of an impact as a first year pro, since he’s more physically developed than someone like JoJo or Werner was.
We all knew from the start Rangnick as a coach was only a stop-gap. Wouldn't surprise we if we hear sometime Nagelsmann and Rangnick had this deal in place for months. I never bought the Nagelsmann-to-Bayern rumors. BvB, yes, but not Munich with Hoeneß still in charge. This will come later.
 

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Happens all the time in Germany with coaches & players. It only ever goes bad when it’s announced publicly and there is a huge fan base/media presence to blow the story up, neither of which applies to Hoffenheim.

Plus even when it goes public with a huge fanbase, it usually plays out like the Lewa transfer if the party in question is of high quality, like Nagelsmann
A coach announces his future club before the upcoming season even started? Well, I can't recall a notable case throughout the last years.

You're probably right about the fans not caring much, still Nagelsmann and the people involved could've solved this a tad smarter. Just wait 'til Hoffe stumbles into a losing streak because of CL extra games and players becoming mouthy about coaches decisions.
I can see Nagelsmann leaving 1899 before next summer, whenever it's a firing or step down, depending on how the season goes.
 

cgf

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We all knew from the start Rangnick as a coach was only a stop-gap. Wouldn't surprise we if we hear sometime Nagelsmann and Rangnick had this deal in place for months. I never bought the Nagelsmann-to-Bayern rumors. BvB, yes, but not Munich with Hoeneß still in charge. This will come later.

My friends in the BVB press department heard last fall when the heat on Bosz was first building up, that they were supposed to talk down stories linking Nagelsmann to the job because him going to Bayern was all but official.

At least until sometime in the late-winter/spring when Hoeneß decided he didn’t need some know-it-all who never even played for Bayern, and that his old friend Kovac was doing a good enough job to get the job instead. (this paragraph is my own speculation)

Take it for what it’s worth, but they’re old friends who wouldn’t BS me & have tipped me off to some BVB transfers before any rumors had come out & what they told me about the whole Tuchel-Watzke clash made a lot more sense to me than any alternative story I’ve heard.
 
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cgf

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A coach announces his future club before the upcoming season even started? Well, I can't recall a notable case throughout the last years.

You're probably right about the fans not caring much, still Nagelsmann and the people involved could've solved this a tad smarter. Just wait 'til Hoffe stumbles into a losing streak because of CL extra games and players becoming mouthy about coaches decisions.
I can see Nagelsmann leaving 1899 before next summer, whenever it's a firing or step down, depending on how the season goes.

I guess a coach announcing it before the season is a little different than a player, or a coach announcing it in season...but tbh I think the optics are better on a coach announcing it in the offseason than in-season; when he’s supposed to be focused on his team & not negotiating his next job.

Agreed though that if it any point it does turn sour, the plug will be pulled quickly & Nagelsmann will move east long before next summer.
 
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Havre

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Of course this deal is not a problem for Nagelsmann. And I guess Hoffenheim are so desperate to keep him that they are willing to accept such a crazy deal.
 

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Fenerbahce appoint PSV manager Phillip Cocu, in his place PSV will hire Mark van Bommel who is currently at the WC as an assistant manager for Australia
 

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