Value of: Make a Trade with the Rangers

[Groo]

Nothing worth giving him away for, I don't like the idea of giving him away anyways, kids got balls which the Rangers lack desperately

Yep, he's that kind of player. Hence my interest.
Still, he wasn't on the no touch list

 

[Shootertooter]

Well trading Kreider and the 2nd for the 1st certainly isn’t McDavid +, you obtuse dunce.

I'm not one for personal attacks but, obtuse dunce is pretty solid.

 

[Diaz126025]

Yep, he's that kind of player. Hence my interest.
Still, he wasn't on the no touch list

I agree 100%. Love what I've seen from him but I agree with the list up top, anyones gone in a good trade. Idk about the Sharks though

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I'm not one for personal attacks but, obtuse dunce is pretty solid.

I agree - i would lobby for him not getting an infraction due to the depth of the insult.

 

[bernmeister]

We are not married to Vesey but we should not be throwing him or Fast away so quickly for so cheap.

Namest only has value to TB at half due to track record with Stamkos.
reduced Namest expiring + TB 2019 2nd for TB 2020 1st, will even protect up to 20 slots, just get that done.

Other vets, move
certain youth, repurpose, eliminate logjams

Staal -- who is now cheap to buy out as is --- to Leafs at half
for
Marleau at full pop

Marc waives 'cause we have to pay him but not nec play him and there are now too many guys ahead of him. He also is building up goodwill with us for post career by making this favor.

Marleau waives, he plays on 2nd line w/Kreider + Nieves = a speed line.
He wants out, we flip him to contender at TDL.

Leafs get immediate cap relief, and if they eat half on Staal at a meager 2.85, he then becomes a paltry 1.425 to a third team.
plus he is an experienced vet def who can be 3rd pair 7th guy until moved/bought out

those 2 deals,
sign Panarin
take back Hayes at the right # for only $

a couple more deals and we're rollin....

 

[slg1963]

We are not married to Vesey but we should not be throwing him or Fast away so quickly for so cheap.

Namest only has value to TB at half due to track record with Stamkos.
reduced Namest expiring + TB 2019 2nd for TB 2020 1st, will even protect up to 20 slots, just get that done.

Other vets, move
certain youth, repurpose, eliminate logjams

Staal -- who is now cheap to buy out as is --- to Leafs at half
for
Marleau at full pop

Marc waives 'cause we have to pay him but not nec play him and there are now too many guys ahead of him. He also is building up goodwill with us for post career by making this favor.

Marleau waives, he plays on 2nd line w/Kreider + Nieves = a speed line.
He wants out, we flip him to contender at TDL.

Leafs get immediate cap relief, and if they eat half on Staal at a meager 2.85, he then becomes a paltry 1.425 to a third team.
plus he is an experienced vet def who can be 3rd pair 7th guy until moved/bought out

those 2 deals,
sign Panarin
take back Hayes at the right # for only $

a couple more deals and we're rollin....

We are not trading Staal for Marleau, Staal can mentor the young D we have.

 

[Shootertooter]

We are not trading Staal for Marleau, Staal can mentor the young D we have.

No but, it makes total sense for his addition on the synergy line.....(said no rational thinking hockey fan ever who knows water is wet.)

 

[Shootertooter]

We are not married to Vesey but we should not be throwing him or Fast away so quickly for so cheap.

Namest only has value to TB at half due to track record with Stamkos.
reduced Namest expiring + TB 2019 2nd for TB 2020 1st, will even protect up to 20 slots, just get that done.

Other vets, move
certain youth, repurpose, eliminate logjams

Staal -- who is now cheap to buy out as is --- to Leafs at half
for
Marleau at full pop

Marc waives 'cause we have to pay him but not nec play him and there are now too many guys ahead of him. He also is building up goodwill with us for post career by making this favor.

Marleau waives, he plays on 2nd line w/Kreider + Nieves = a speed line.
He wants out, we flip him to contender at TDL.

Leafs get immediate cap relief, and if they eat half on Staal at a meager 2.85, he then becomes a paltry 1.425 to a third team.
plus he is an experienced vet def who can be 3rd pair 7th guy until moved/bought out

those 2 deals,
sign Panarin
take back Hayes at the right # for only $

a couple more deals and we're rollin....

No.

 

[TGWL]

Sold. Isles 2019 3rd for Vesey.

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[Curufinwe]

Hayes' UFA rights for a 6th.

 

[TGWL]

What's the ask for Lemieux from the Sharks?

He's not untouchable. I honestly don't know what I'd trade him for. In reality, he's a 4th liner who can perhaps play his way to the 3rd line. His conditioning needs to improve if he's going to be a consistent 3rd liner. He definitely wasn't use to having a role like that and it lead to him becoming gassed out at times. However, he brings a skill set we've lacked for a long time and should we get back to becoming contenders, he's going to be very useful when the game gets tighter and more physical.

 

[Hierso]

We are not married to Vesey but we should not be throwing him or Fast away so quickly for so cheap.

Namest only has value to TB at half due to track record with Stamkos.
reduced Namest expiring + TB 2019 2nd for TB 2020 1st, will even protect up to 20 slots, just get that done.

Other vets, move
certain youth, repurpose, eliminate logjams

Staal -- who is now cheap to buy out as is --- to Leafs at half
for
Marleau at full pop

Marc waives 'cause we have to pay him but not nec play him and there are now too many guys ahead of him. He also is building up goodwill with us for post career by making this favor.

Marleau waives, he plays on 2nd line w/Kreider + Nieves = a speed line.
He wants out, we flip him to contender at TDL.

Leafs get immediate cap relief, and if they eat half on Staal at a meager 2.85, he then becomes a paltry 1.425 to a third team.
plus he is an experienced vet def who can be 3rd pair 7th guy until moved/bought out

those 2 deals,
sign Panarin
take back Hayes at the right # for only $

a couple more deals and we're rollin....

Why should the rangers help the leafs without getting anything out of it? Retaining 50% of Staal and getting Marleau back doesn't make any sense.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Why should the rangers help the leafs without getting anything out of it? Retaining 50% of Staal and getting Marleau back doesn't make any sense.

It's a trend with his posts

 

[Shootertooter]

He's not untouchable. I honestly don't know what I'd trade him for. In reality, he's a 4th liner who can perhaps play his way to the 3rd line. His conditioning needs to improve if he's going to be a consistent 3rd liner. He definitely wasn't use to having a role like that and it lead to him becoming gassed out at times. However, he brings a skill set we've lacked for a long time and should we get back to becoming contenders, he's going to be very useful when the game gets tighter and more physical.

I think he is the kind of player who will be way more valuable to us in the line up than in a trade. Like Jesper Fast. He brings a very desirable skill set that people simply don't want to pay much to acquire. I think we are quickly going to start considering him part of the core moving forward after the beginning of this coming season.

 

[One Winged Angel]

The fact is what I said is valid build around a Center is MUCH more effective then a winger.

For the umpteenth time, neither the Rangers nor the Devils would do that deal. Gorton himself said he’s using the 2nd overall pick, not trading it and even mentioning McDavid’s name was pointless because there are 3 things in life that’s are certain right now... taxes, death and Connor McDavid being untouchable sans him demanding a trade from edmonton.

So stop with the nonsense already.

 

[One Winged Angel]

Hayes' UFA rights for a 6th.

Haha I got a chuckle out of this one.

 

[One Winged Angel]

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They should make this like a ComicCon.

 

[One Winged Angel]

No.

There isn’t enough no to go around for this doozy from Bernie.

 

[Shootertooter]

It's a trend with his posts

Mostly yes but.........

This is why he proposed it like that........
If the alternative is buying Staal out, the penalty goes for 2 extra years @ 1.2million against the cap until 2023/24. So you have 4yrs.....2.9m, 3.7m, 1.2m and 1.2m.

If you take Marleau, you have 1 yr of his cap hit, trading and retaining 50% on Staal for 2 yrs would be 2.85m for 2 seasons. You pay more the first 2 yrs with Marleaus hit added but you don't have the 1.2m penalty for 2 additional years. That is where you free up money. At this point during the rebuild, if the Rangers are not going all in for Panarin, this would not be a terrible move to rid ourselves of Staal, assuming a buyout is imminent otherwise. Then they can move Smith to Siberia or the AHL.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Makes sense. Not sure Rangers really need the cap space but dead cap is never good. Neither is using up one of your 3 contact retentions unnecessarily.

 

[ottomaddox]

Following the recent trend of other threads.

The Rangers are still entrenched in their rebuild but perhaps may be turning a corner with a massive influx of picks and prospects over the last 2-3 seasons and not many prime assets in position to be sold off.

NYR would be looking for hockey deals for a Young Top 4 defenseman and a young top 6 forward and more picks and prospects depending on the value of the asset. They also would like to move up into the 6-14 range of the draft if a deal presents itself.

Untouchables: #2 overall pick, Mika Zibanejad, Vitali Kravtsov, K’Andre Miller, Adam Fox

Assets on the block****: Chris Kreider, Vlad Namestnikov, Jimmy Vesey, Ryan Strome, Neal Pionk, Kevin Shattenkirk, Brendan Smith, Marc Staal, #20 overall (not keen on moving unless used to move up or for a prime young asset)

Guys like Buchnevich and Skjei and other assets not listed above can be had for the right price if it’s a deal that makes sense for the Rangers.

In addition, the Rangers will take on cap dumps from other teams that are cap strapped if it means acquiring a young asset as a reward and/or retain salary on players to make deals more attractive.

I don't think anyone respects people who are lazy. When you sit back and make us do your work ("Make a trade with the Rangers"), we become less inspired. Mostly we are reluctant.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

I don't think anyone respects people who are lazy. When you sit back and make us do your work ("Make a trade with the Rangers"), we become less inspired. Mostly we are reluctant.

Dont read the thread then

 

[ShaneinTpa]

So would the Rangers rather have one year of Marleau or Cally? And if the latter at what cost to TB?

 

[Shnooks]

Literally the only bolded words in the entire OP are “#2 overall pick” RIGHT BESIDE the word “Untouchable” to place emphasis on the degree to which it was untouchable and the first proposal in this thread is a trade for said asset.

Well, you're crazy if you wouldn't trade #2 and Kreider for Hughes.

Kakko will be good, like Eichel...but Hughes will be great, like McDavid.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Well, you're crazy if you wouldn't trade #2 and Kreider for Hughes.

Kakko will be good, like Eichel...but Hughes will be great, like McDavid.

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