Value of: Make a Trade with Colorado

[CraigsList]

Make a trade with your favorite team with this team that MAKES SENSE FOR BOTH SIDES. It can be 1 for 1, taking on a bad contract, flipping 7th rounders, whatever you deem is necessary to not only make your team better but the other one too. If it's a rebuilding/retooling side they obviously want something for the future.

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[Makar Goes Fast]

MacKinnon for futures.

 

[Liferleafer]

To Colorado
Kadri+Marleau

To Toronto
Erik Johnson

Deal contingent upon Marleau and Johnson waiving.

 

[justafan22]

Kadri for 16th OA and Kerfoot

 

[Meeqs]

Fla Trades 2 months of a beach front time share in the most flamboyant location in a 100 mile radius for a 3 week ski pass to vail in a small ski lodge filled with 15 other stoner bros to save on $$ by making the most out of the 2 bedrooms.

 

[NOTENOUGHJTCGOALS]

Petterson and Boeser for MacGinnon and Jost and Kaut.

 

[Fogelhund]

From Toronto - Kapanen + 3rd round pick for Colorado's 1st round pick. (16th overall)

Let's be honest here, these teams don't fit very well for a trade. Leafs real need is a RHD, and Colorado isn't giving that up. Leafs secondary need might be prospect C's... but then, Colorado doesn't really have much there either that they can give away.

Casually, Colorado could use some secondary scoring, and another RW. I'm just going by stats here, and after Rantanen, the next RW in scoring is Sven... maybe someone is playing off their regular position, but I'm unaware if that's the case, so apologies. Kapanen is worth 1st round in the high twenties, but not 16 OA, so adding a third to even it out.

Leafs would probably target RHD Seider with the pick. Which long-term fills a need, but not right now...

I'm not sure if it's an ideal trade for either team, but it's about as good as I could find.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Trocheck for Makar

 

[AKL]

Trocheck for Makar

This isn’t even remotely in the vicinity of acceptable for Colorado

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

This isn’t even remotely in the vicinity of acceptable for Colorado

Yeah, a 1C for a stud D prospect is just nuts.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

From Toronto - Kapanen + 3rd round pick for Colorado's 1st round pick. (16th overall)

Let's be honest here, these teams don't fit very well for a trade. Leafs real need is a RHD, and Colorado isn't giving that up. Leafs secondary need might be prospect C's... but then, Colorado doesn't really have much there either that they can give away.

Casually, Colorado could use some secondary scoring, and another RW. I'm just going by stats here, and after Rantanen, the next RW in scoring is Sven... maybe someone is playing off their regular position, but I'm unaware if that's the case, so apologies. Kapanen is worth 1st round in the high twenties, but not 16 OA, so adding a third to even it out.

Leafs would probably target RHD Seider with the pick. Which long-term fills a need, but not right now...

I'm not sure if it's an ideal trade for either team, but it's about as good as I could find.

high 20's + 3rd rounder =/= 16 ov

 

[AKL]

Yeah, a 1C for a stud D prospect is just nuts.

Which 1C are you offering? I didn’t see Barkov’s name in the proposal.

 

[Papa Francouz]

Yeah, a 1C for a stud D prospect is just nuts.

Oh, well if it's actually Barkov then I guess we might have a deal here.

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Which 1C are you offering? I didn’t see Barkov’s name in the proposal.

So Trochecks not a 1C now? lol kk

 

[AKL]

So Trochecks not a 1C now? lol kk

When was he ever?

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Yeah, a 1C for a stud D prospect is just nuts.

you didnt offer barkov though?

 

[CraigsList]

So Trochecks not a 1C now? lol kk

Trochek is a 2C. Terrible deal for the Avs.

 

[RationalExpectations]

The main issue of Colorado is offensive depth, the Habs could be a partner for 4th line deal around Wiese + Peca/Hudon/Deslauriers for a 5th round pick (reasoning is that from my perspective Hudon and Peca may benefit from a fresh start, Deslauriers is a serious 4 th liner and Wiese is a good 4th line player with a cap hit which is 1m too high ) It is not a sexy deal but it works from both sides with the Habs having expandable depth players and making cap room in case they go for Duchene, a big UFA or RFA.

That will depend on which UFAs they target.

What do you think ?

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Trouba for Barrie + Colorado's 1st

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

The main issue of Colorado is offensive depth, the Habs could be a partner for 4th line deal around Wiese + Peca/Hudon/Deslauriers for a 5th round pick (reasoning is that from my perspective Hudon and Peca may benefit from a fresh start, Deslauriers is a serious 4 th liner and Wiese is a good 4th line player with a cap hit which is 1m too high ) It is not a sexy deal but it works from both sides with the Habs having expandable depth players and making cap room in case they go for Duchene, a big UFA or RFA.

That will depend on which UFAs they target.

What do you think ?

the bolded is not true. colorado does not need tweeners. they need a high end piece to fill a top six role and push others down the lineup. adding more tweeners does nothing but add to the issue colorado has which is inconsistent players playing above where they should. Panarin or skinner solves this problem for them well.

 

[HoseEmDown]

JT Miller + Ryan Callahan + 3rd for Mark Barberio + 16?

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Trochek is a 2C. Terrible deal for the Avs.

He had more points than Monahan last season, so I guess he's a 2C too.

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

He had more points than Monahan last season, so I guess he's a 2C too.

congrats he had one good year that screams outlier.

 

[cgf]

Colorado doesn't need any more bottom 6ers. If we had the 2...or better yet, 3 if we could upgrade on Kerf...top 6ers that we lack to knock the rest down to where they belong; you could do a lot worse than a bottom 6 built around Jost, Soderberg, Calvert, Compher, Longbeach-native, Kamenev, and Wilson (if he's brought back). The problem is that we don't have the 2 (or 3) top 6ers that we need to knock everyone down to where they'd ideally start next season.

If Joe pulled something off like getting Kadri using EJ, Zucker using #16, and signing a Dzingel/Donskoi type (if not someone even better) to upgrade upon Kerfoot & hold off Jost for the final top-6 spot; our depth would excellent...but there's a lot that Joe has left himself to get done this offseason for something like that to actually come together; even with all of the cap space & the surplus of futures, that he has to work with.

Realistically I think the best-case-scenario looks more like signing Hayes or Nelson to a tolerable 4/5 year deal, drafting Zegras to take that job from them in 2 seasons, and flipping #16 for Zucker. Having the final top 6 spot go to Jost or Kerfoot wouldn't be ideal, but wouldn't be the end of the world if we had an adequate 2C for that line and someone like Zucker to complete the top line while freeing Mikko up to run his own unit.

 

[RationalExpectations]

the bolded is not true. colorado does not need tweeners. they need a high end piece to fill a top six role and push others down the lineup. adding more tweeners does nothing but add to the issue colorado has. incosistent players playing above where they should. Panarin or skinner solves this problem for them well.

I believe that Hudon/Deslauriers would have been an improvement but maybe I am wrong.... Honestly I believe Armia or Lekhonen could help you but I do not see the Habs trading them outside of a larger deal for a key player or a high pick.

Second thing, I definitely believe Colorado need top 6 forwards but Panarin wants a big City, Skinner wants to stay East apparetnly, not sure who do you get ? Duchene ?

The Habs could trade Drouin or Tatar which would be a huge improvement on Colorado's second line, but I am not sure who you would trade anything which would convince them to let these players go, right ?

I think Colorado will have a really hard time on the trade market because it does not have much to trade in terms of players, right ? The first forward line is splendid + Johnson, Barrie, Girard, Makar which make a solid defense but Colorado would not trade any of them.

Maybe a rebuilding team like Detroit would have interest in trading Mantha for some picks. Else Colorado's cap space may push them to make a bid for Marner, Duchene...