Mackinnon or Matthews

[Dache]

If MacKinnon does re-sign for a team friendly contract that's great, but until he does that it's why I believe it when it happens.

Also what's considered team friendly? What if he wants 7 years and $11 million AAV just as an example, is that acceptable based on his comments? The way he's playing why wouldn't a team on the open market give him between $12-$14 million.

So a better player signed to longer term with less cap hit than Matthews signed after the cap goes up? Yeah that would be team friendly in comparison

 

[Kurt Cobain]

MacKinnon easily. Matthews is obviously great though cant go wrong with either player though.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Mackinnon is the better player and makes 53% of what Matthews makes. How is this a question?

 

[CalgarySnow]

MacKinnon AINEC

 

[The Abusement Park]

Helped greatly by the extra minute of PP time he gets every game.

If you’ve seen even 1 avalanche power play this year you would know that is not true.

 

[Kurt Cobain]

I never said that or thought it would happen, so don't go twisting my words around.

Just stop please. Matthews is great and a top 10 forward in the world. Nothing wrong with that and plus you got Marner. You Leaf fans can't have everything.

 

[Dekes For Days]

If you’ve seen even 1 avalanche power play this year you would know that is not true.

How the player does on the PP is irrelevant to the fact that he gets the opportunity that others do not.

 

[Go Wings]

Mackinnon is the better player and makes 53% of what Matthews makes. How is this a question?

It isn't. Leaf fans just want to keep pretending that Matthews is at Mackinnon's level

 

[Dache]

How the player does on the PP is irrelevant to the fact that he gets the opportunity that others do not.

Isn’t pp points p/60 exactly “how a player does on the pp”?

 

[Dekes For Days]

Isn’t pp points p/60 exactly “how a player does on the pp”?

Yes. Not sure your point.

You don't get to claim that ice time doesn't mean anything because your player hasn't been doing well on the PP. Which isn't even true; Mackinnon has done well on the PP. It's the 2nd best year of his career there so far.

 

[Dache]

Yes. Not sure your point.

You don't get to claim that ice time doesn't mean anything because your player hasn't been doing well on the PP. Which isn't even true; Mackinnon has done well on the PP. It's the 2nd best year of his career there so far.

I’m just going by where you said “how a player does on the pp is irrelevant”

 

[Dekes For Days]

I’m just going by where you said “how a player does on the pp is irrelevant”

You cut off the end of the sentence. I said it is irrelevant to the fact that he gets that opportunity. How he does is completely separate.

 

[Dache]

You cut off the end of the sentence. I said it is irrelevant to the fact that he gets that opportunity. How he does is completely separate.

I left all the of the relevant parts of the quote

 

[Dekes For Days]

I left all the of the relevant parts of the quote

You clearly didn't, because you didn't understand what was being said and had to ask again.

 

[Dache]

You clearly didn't, because you didn't understand what was being said and had to ask again.

I completely understood what you said and left all the relevant parts of the quote.

 

[McDavidCrushedLarkin]

This is MacKinnon all day long.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I completely understood what you said and left all the relevant parts of the quote.

Then you should have had no reason to ask the question you did.

 

[McShogun99]

From reading this thread the votes are about;

Mackinnon: 317
Matthews: 0

 

[Dache]

Then you should have had no reason to ask the question you did.

I asked because it’s confusing how you always mention p60 stats for the pp, which you agree is a measure of how a player performs on the pp, then say that “how a player does on the pp is irrelevant”

Those are very conflicting views.

 

[Dache]

From reading this thread the votes are about;

Mackinnon: 317
Matthews: 0

317-2 by my count

 

[McShogun99]

317-2 by my count

The 2 votes were by Matthews mom and dad.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I asked because it’s confusing how you always mention p60 stats for the pp, which you agree is a measure of how a player performs on the pp, then say that “how a player does on the pp is irrelevant”

I did not say how a player does on the PP is irrelevant. Stop misrepresenting what I said.

 

[Jedub]

MacKinnon's bigger, faster, and doesnt get hurt every year. I pick him.

 

[LeafsNation75]

MacKinnon's bigger, faster, and doesnt get hurt every year. I pick him.

Prior to this year MacKinnon had only played in 82 games in 3/6 seasons. So was hurt in 2015, 2016, and 2018 since he only played in 64, 72 and 74 games.

 

[Dache]

Prior to this year MacKinnon had only played in 82 games in 3/6 seasons. So was hurt in 2015, 2016, and 2018 since he only played in 64, 72 and 74 games.

prior to this season Matthews only played 82 games 1/3 seasons