Because it's blatantly obvious no GM is going to give us a Gardiner or a Bjugstad for Bob and his contract? Either we take the best offer or we roll with two goalies making a combined 10 mil cap hit and keep the 2 or 3 holes on the forward lines.
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Because it's blatantly obvious no GM is going to give us a Gardiner or a Bjugstad for Bob and his contract? Either we take the best offer or we roll with two goalies making a combined 10 mil cap hit and keep the 2 or 3 holes on the forward lines.
BeardyCanuck03
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a) Luongo isn't consitent enough to be a top 5 goalie.
b) What we are getting back in these proposals isn't garbage despite what you say
You're completley missing the point. I don't care about his stats, I'm talking skill-set. He's either on a scoring line, or he's not in the NHL. Does not have the skill-set of a 3rd liner on a Vigneault team. I'm not saying he should be on a scoring line, I'm saying it's that or bust with Frattin. Similar to literally 100s of players before him...
y2kcanucks
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I don't see how adding Bozak and Frattin fills those holes any more than Schroeder and Kassian.
If this is the best teams are offering then we are better off rolling with two elite goalies and keeping them both fresh for the playoffs.
y2kcanucks
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a) actually he is. Care to name better goalies?
b) actually it is garbage. A 24 year old prospect who hasn't shown anything at the NHL level, and a mediocre offensive, poor defensive third line center is a terrible return for an elite goalie.
First of all Bozak is a country mile better than Shroeder, and Kassian will be in our bottom 6 anyways I do think.
I would be fine with rolling with two great goalies, only you're forgetting the media circus and distractions that go with it.
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im missing the point? no im not
if he was in the package, that would make him a 3rd liner. lol im just referring to the trade and what would happen if he was traded here. thats why i called him third liner. they wouldn't be trading for him to be on the 2nd, that would be ridiculous and never happen.
and it wouldn't be bust or they wouldn't be trading for him.
so theres only one place he'd end up if they were INFACT trading for him.
and im confused, didn't somebody just earlier come in here and give a description of his play and say he has an all around game and has size and hits? isn't that the opposite of what youre claiming.
Tobi Wan Kenobi
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You don;'t know that until Schroeder gets time in the NHL, but based on experience, yes, he is further along. In terms of potential, Schroeder is a country mile ahead.
sure but schroeder isn't goign to reach that in his first nhl year. the chances he sticks on this team is minimal, let alone be near bozak's level. i agree that the players mentioned from the leafs are far from great but come on, schroeder being the better option than bozak? hah far from. its just not worth luongo
Tobi Wan Kenobi
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Is there a goalie who's been more consistent over the last 7 years?im missing the point? no im not
if he was in the package, that would make him a 3rd liner. lol im just referring to the trade and what would happen if he was traded here. thats why i called him third liner. they wouldn't be trading for him to be on the 2nd, that would be ridiculous and never happen.
and it wouldn't be bust or they wouldn't be trading for him.
so theres only one place he'd end up if they were INFACT trading for him.
and im confused, didn't somebody just earlier come in here and give a description of his play and say he has an all around game and has size and hits? isn't that the opposite of what youre claiming.
You don't acquire players for specefic roles normally, you acquire assets, then the coach does with them as he sees fit. And I don't see Vigneault using Frattin as a checker, granted I haven't seen him play a lot since his first year in the AHL, so his all-around game may have come around.
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Tobi Wan Kenobi
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Ya for the short term Bozak is a better option, but I'd rather let Schroeder develop in the NHL, cushioned by an incredible core of talented vets.
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I don't normally agree with you but if the return if Bozak, Frattin and a pick, then we were robbed. Schroeder ends up locked out of a roster spot and Kassian is a better prospect than Frattin. There is nothing to settle into with that trade, never mind Bozak is a UFA.
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That's easy to say if he was playing fourth line centre with Malhotra riding shotgun. But the fact is that with Kesler out there's a gaping hole on the second line. We'd all love Schroeder to jump up and claim it but that's hardly a cushioned development.
That being said, if a 26 year old soon to be UFA with a career high of 47 points with top line minutes is the centrepiece of the Luongo deal we've been robbed blind.
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Mr. Canucklehead
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So...I call BS on the whole Vancouver/Toronto "done deal" thing.
Hard to make a blockbuster trade if you've been turfed...
Hard to make a blockbuster trade if you've been turfed...
Schroeder locked out of a roster spot? the guy wasn't going to play a full year in his first nhl year anyway, and definitely not stick for the playoffs. this guy is a rookie. most players do not play a full year in their first year
and on top of that, schroeder will STILL get his time this year, injuries happen all the time
and on top of that, schroeder will STILL get his time this year, injuries happen all the time
I'm skeptical that it's a done deal but I'd be surprised if it isn't Nonis taking over for him. That wouldn't be much of an impediment if it was.
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