Lundqvist Watch: Back in tomorrow after four games off (Shutout)

[Pavel Buchnevich]

There is no goalie controversy between Lundqvist and Raanta, but talking about how much Lundqvist is declining is not just an overreaction. He has declined, if we want to use his play over a long stretch as a barometer, and he seems to be declining fast.

 

[Doctor No]

It's done by using a rolling 12 months, which drops Oct/Nov 2015 which were great months for Hank. Surprisingly, this "past year" stuff didn't start until December.

That's exactly what I did (attempting to replicate his results), and I still get nowhere near "below replacement level".

 

[jacobhockey13]

most overrated player over the past 3 years. bout time someone took over the reigns.

Completely disagree.

 

[aufheben]

That's exactly what I did (attempting to replicate his results), and I still get nowhere near "below replacement level".

Surprising.

 

[Price is Wright]

Lundqvist has declined a little bit and New York did some great pro scouting on Raanta to bring in a starter quality goalie (maybe) to counteract that decline. These games off will do the King good come April.

 

[hockeygoon15]

I have to laugh at those calling Hank overrated. He was in the top 6 in Vezina voting for 10 straight years (05/06 - 14/15). I'd take that over a one-hit-wonder any day of the week.

05/06 - 3rd
06/07 - 4th
07/08 - 3rd
08/09 - 6th
09/10 - 6th
10/11 - 4th
11/12 - 1st
12/13 - 2nd
13/14 - 6th
14/15 - 5th

 

[AINEC*]

I have to laugh at those calling Hank overrated. He was in the top 6 in Vezina voting for 10 straight years (05/06 - 14/15). I'd take that over a one-hit-wonder any day of the week.

05/06 - 3rd
06/07 - 4th
07/08 - 3rd
08/09 - 6th
09/10 - 6th
10/11 - 4th
11/12 - 1st
12/13 - 2nd
13/14 - 6th
14/15 - 5th

Yeah but he's not playing well at the moment so he's confirmed a hot garbage bust (even for a 205th overall pick). All of that has been negated.

 

[hockeygoon15]

Yeah but he's not playing well at the moment so he's confirmed a hot garbage bust (even for a 205th overall pick). All of that has been negated.

I've always found that aspect of HF interesting... Unproven prospect? Worth his weight in gold. Proven vet hitting a rough patch? Worthless and overpaid.

 

[Fledgemyhedge]

I've always found that aspect of HF interesting... Unproven prospect? Worth his weight in gold. Proven vet hitting a rough patch? Worthless and overpaid.

He has declined though, it goes back farther than this season

 

[haakon84]

Vezina voting is greatly skewed because Sather voted Lundqvist as 1st place multiple years when he did not deserve it. That allowed him to jump up 3-4 spots because of the weighting and the dominance of top-2 goaltenders most seasons. End of the year All-star is a better indicator... and more sobering.

05/06 - 3rd
06/07 - 7th
07/08 - 4th
08/09 - 8th
09/10 - 9th
10/11 - 5th
11/12 - 1st
12/13 - 2nd
13/14 - 6th
14/15 - 8th
15/26 - 7th

He's been top 5 - 5 times or 45% of the seasons he starts.

 

[Moon Knight]

Vezina voting is greatly skewed because Sather voted Lundqvist as 1st place multiple years when he did not deserve it. That allowed him to jump up 3-4 spots because of the weighting and the dominance of top-2 goaltenders most seasons. End of the year All-star is a better indicator... and more sobering.

05/06 - 3rd
06/07 - 7th
07/08 - 4th
08/09 - 8th
09/10 - 9th
10/11 - 5th
11/12 - 1st
12/13 - 2nd
13/14 - 6th
14/15 - 8th
15/26 - 7th

He's been top 5 - 5 times or 45% of the seasons he starts.

Did Lundqvist kill your dog or something? Why the hate?

 

[goonybird]

NYR are forced to protect him in the expansion draft right?

 

[TheOneArmedMan]

Oooo controversy. Is Hank on the decline? He got lit up in the playoffs pretty bad last year I thought the Rangers were going to be in the cup finals. Maybe this season will be the one?

 

[Plural]

Like all awards voted on by writers, this doesn't mean as much as some like to think

This was exemplified the year that Ovechkin was on both the 1st and 2nd ASTs because voters literally didn't know what position the guy they are voting as the "best at his position" plays

Again, there was a info e-mail sent to vote according to positions in nhl site. By the time the e-mail was sent a lot of ballots had been sent out.

People cling on to these myths like drowning man on to a piece of board. "No hit rule" etc.

 

[wingnutks]

He wasent elite last year, he hasent been good this year. He isnt terrible and likely wont be terrible the rest of the year. However, if people are thinking he is or will be elite for a significant stretch ever again are likely mistaken. Its just odds.

 

[Doctor No]

Vezina voting is greatly skewed

Since I questioned your last "fact" with numbers, you're switching to broad-based conspiracies now?

Any time you'd like to get back to your "below replacement level" comment, that's fine with me. Any time.

 

[Bread and Circuses]

I am one of those that honestly has felt like Hank has been a bit overrated for the past few years tbh, he isn't a mediocre goalie as far as nhl starters go but definitely hasn't been as good as many want to believe in the past 2/3 seasons prior.

 

[aufheben]

Vezina voting is greatly skewed because Sather voted Lundqvist as 1st place multiple years when he did not deserve it. That allowed him to jump up 3-4 spots because of the weighting and the dominance of top-2 goaltenders most seasons. End of the year All-star is a better indicator... and more sobering.

05/06 - 3rd
06/07 - 7th
07/08 - 4th
08/09 - 8th
09/10 - 9th
10/11 - 5th
11/12 - 1st
12/13 - 2nd
13/14 - 6th
14/15 - 8th
15/26 - 7th

He's been top 5 - 5 times or 45% of the seasons he starts.

Is that...not good? When you said he's not God, did you simply mean that literally?

 

[Frank Drebin]

Let nyr mourn the loss of Hank in peace.

 

[BL92]

That contract was a mistake.

 

[Drew4u]

Lundvist had one of the best 5-5 save % last year, and faced way more scoring chances than anyone else. He will find his game and be dominant.

 

[Deluded Puck]

Hank is still an elite goalie, he just needs to be managed more as he ages

 

[Siddi]

He wasent elite last year, he hasent been good this year. He isnt terrible and likely wont be terrible the rest of the year. However, if people are thinking he is or will be elite for a significant stretch ever again are likely mistaken. Its just odds.

You didn't respond when I challenged your statement with facts and now you just repeat the same post over again. Why are some people so afraid of facts?

http://www.tsn.ca/lundqvist-quietly-continues-run-of-excellence-1.449738

http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2016/4/13/11417834/should-henrik-lundqvist-be-considered-for-the-vezina-yes-yes-he-should

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

That contract was a mistake.

That's what happens half the time when you players in their 30s to long-term contracts with career-high AAVs

 

[Crease]