Lucic is on pace for 11 pts this season

[HabsQC]

The real winner here is Boston for not re-signing him and only getting the years where he was truly useful.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

What a horrible trade. And James Neal is bad too, so Edmonton isn't off the hook, but man Lucic is completely awful.

I mean, getting a guy back who at least scores goals for a borderline useless player like Lucic - yeah you're off the hook.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

I mean, getting a guy back who at least scores goals for a borderline useless player like Lucic - yeah you're off the hook.

When he's not scoring goals Neal is also one of the worst players in the league.

 

[GOilers88]

He started out the season with 7 goals in 4 games. Since then he's slowed down considerably. So that pace is pretty meaningless now.

Pace is always meaningless.

 

[dss97]

I will never stop loving this trade.

Lucic stopped being an NHL caliber player 1.5 years ago.

 

[Bounces R Way]

...

only for like 15 years now

 

[GOilers88]

When he's not scoring goals Neal is also one of the worst players in the league.

If he winds up a 20/20 guy, which is looking highly likely, there's absolutely no way you can put a negative spin on it. Even now, it's practically impossible to put anything negative on Edmonton here.

People need to understand that every sport has roleplayers. In hockey, guys that make a living as goal scorers are paid and expected to score goals, not be Patrice Bergeron. If they net you 20-30 goals, you don't really care about their other misgivings because you have 17 other players on your bench.

People can discredit PP goals and points all they want, which for some insane reason seems to be the new thing on HF, but that doesn't make them any less important.

 

[Chef de Cuisine]

he won't pick up his performance. he's an AHLer making an NHL salary.

Probably an ECHLer tbh.

 

[Bruise Bros Vol 2]

So many other guys in the league who can bring a physical edge and skate better than this schmuck. He was one of the premier power forwards in what was the last great period of power forwards (and fighting in general), but that time has passed him and it's passed him quickly in the last 2 years. He doesn't even really play all that physical on a consistent basis anymore. Sure, he'll start the year off with a fight or two but will inevitably toss a few cheap shots, take moronic roughing penalties after receiving a clean hit, and of course jump the occasional player he's guaranteed to beat up.

Dude has always been a major spot-picker, but at least back then he was an effective power forward.

 

[guzzy]

If he winds up a 20/20 guy, which is looking highly likely, there's absolutely no way you can put a negative spin on it. Even now, it's practically impossible to put anything negative on Edmonton here.

People need to understand that every sport has roleplayers. In hockey, guys that make a living as goal scorers are paid and expected to score goals, not be Patrice Bergeron. If they net you 20-30 goals, you don't really care about their other misgivings because you have 17 other players on your bench.

People can discredit PP goals and points all they want, which for some insane reason seems to be the new thing on HF, but that doesn't make them any less important.

Neal will not get 40 points this season. I could see him being -40 though

 

[GOilers88]

Neal will not get 40 points this season. I could see him being -40 though

This website is absolutely littered with threads and posts from people who act like they can see the future, and oddly enough 99% of them are wrong. But you do you.

 

[ViewsFromThe6ix]

If he winds up a 20/20 guy, which is looking highly likely, there's absolutely no way you can put a negative spin on it. Even now, it's practically impossible to put anything negative on Edmonton here.

People need to understand that every sport has roleplayers. In hockey, guys that make a living as goal scorers are paid and expected to score goals, not be Patrice Bergeron. If they net you 20-30 goals, you don't really care about their other misgivings because you have 17 other players on your bench.

People can discredit PP goals and points all they want, which for some insane reason seems to be the new thing on HF, but that doesn't make them any less important.

You can get 20 goal scorers that aren't complete black holes in every other aspect of the game.

 

[Jacob]

I just don’t even think Lucic cares how he’s playing any more. Kylington got trucked in the head by Reaves and Lucic only whispered bad words to him.


I thought it was telling how, after his first really bad year with the Oilers, he was asked what he tried to do differently to get his game back. He said he didn’t train differently, eat differently, skate more, or anything like that, all he did was change his stick, which I thought that was a weird answer. A competitive athlete on a huge contract has a terrible year and all he does is he gets a different curve.. that’s almost an admission that you’ve just checked out and you don’t give a shit.

 

[Freudian]

So it's a bounceback year for him?

 

[GOilers88]

You can get 20 goal scorers that aren't complete black holes in every other aspect of the game.

Yeah, I'm sure there's a bunch of 20 goal scorers around the league that their GM's would love to trade for a Lucic.

Again, there's absolutely no way you can spin the Neal/Lucic trade, and their subsequent play in a negative light for Edmonton, unless you're just intentionally being ignorant and trying to rile people up.

If Neal scores 20-30, nobody in Edmonton is going to give a rats ass about any holes in his game. Actually, to rephrase that. If Neal scores 20-30, nobody with half a brain is going to give a rats ass about any holes in his game. He has never been expected to be a complete two way, 200ft player on any team he's been on. His job has been, and still is, to score goals, and he has done nothing but score goals over his 12 year career, with last year being an outlier.

 

[Morpheus]

3 years left on his contract after this year...not looking too good in the future as well.

 

[lancer247]

On pace to barely crack double digits, it would be a career low for him. When does he usually pick up his performance? Do you see him getting better as the season goes on?

Right now he looks to be the most expensive player in the league for such low production. Are there any other 3rd liners in the league who are paid more than this guy? You honestly can't tell me that a minor call up making league minimum on a 2 way deal, isn't capable putting up more than 3 points on the Flames 3rd line after 21 games this season. Hathaway (who they got rid of) would have 3pts on the Flames 3rd line and he's much cheaper than Lucic, plus he is more physical.

Would his point production be up if he was on the Flames top line playing with Monahan and Gaudreau? Possibly but it's not like he's playing with scrubs on the 3rd line. IMO he should be on the 4th line.

Bogus!
Did you pro-rate out the games he was suspended?

 

[DecadeofDarkness22]

3 years left on his contract after this year...not looking too good in the future as well.

Yup 3 more years of wasting gaudreau's time here. Feels nice to have our gm handicap us like this, this is going to turn out like iggy situation again.

 

[The Macho King]

But he took a lot of after the whistle roughing penalties, and isn't that really what he's there for?

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

When he's not scoring goals Neal is also one of the worst players in the league.

But when he is he's better than Lucic.

Lucic doesn't score so can't really flip the tables.

The point is, Edmonton was stuck with Lucic. Just because Neal is bad when he's not scoring doesn't change the fact that the Oilers were stuck with a bad player regardless.

 

[DJJones]

Wasn't Jankowski the "next big one, the best player in the draft"?

Ya not sure what happened to him. He looked like he was going to be a good 3C for the first half of last year. Then Ryan took his spot and he forgot how to shoot I guess.

 

[hockeyguru]

Probably an ECHLer tbh.

that's a disgusting thing to say to all the hard working ECHLers. shame on you /s

 

[DJJones]

But when he is he's better than Lucic.

Lucic doesn't score so can't really flip the tables.

The point is, Edmonton was stuck with Lucic. Just because Neal is bad when he's not scoring doesn't change the fact that the Oilers were stuck with a bad player regardless.

Lucic is a better bottom 6 player than Neal. He's not expected to score. Obviously if Neal is scoring 35 goals that is gigantic but I don't think he'd have as many points as Lucic on the Flames. Calgary's mistake was signing Neal, that screwed us. Lucic is trying to paint a turd gold.

 

[habdynasty]

He’s been done for a while now , the game passed him by.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Great trade by the Flames!!!