Proposal: Lucic++ for a Top-6 LW

[ChaoticOrange]

Because they're trapped in an abomination of a deal with no escape in sight? I have to agree though, that theres no way a blue chip like Yamo goes out with that much retention involved - one or the other.

We’d play Lucic on the fourth line for the next four seasons and then sign him AGAIN to 6x6 after that before we’ll retain 30% AND give up a first and Yamamoto AND get nothing of consequence back.

 

[M2Beezy]

This is what I’m talking about.

You want retention and two high end assets and want to send garbage back. Why does Edmonton do any part of this?

Edmonton is the desperate team here wanting out of that contract so they can compete NOW. Baertchi is a far better 1LW or even 2LW for Edmonton then Lucic on a MUCH better contract. He would easy breasy get 60-70 pts with either Mcdavid or Draisatl.

Gudbranson gives some bite to a weak and easily destroyed defensive group in Edmonton.

If Edmonton can manage to get back on track that 2019 1st would be on the lower end so the balance is quite easily there pal

 

[alphahelix]

We’d play Lucic on the fourth line for the next four seasons and then sign him AGAIN to 6x6 after that before we’ll retain 30% AND give up a first and Yamamoto AND get nothing of consequence back.

The problem is that we can't play him on the 4th line, except for maybe a game here and there. I'll believe its "allowed" when it happens. Its definitely merited. This is the problem - coaches are handcuffed by this player.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Edmonton is the desperate team here wanting out of that contract so they can compete NOW. Baertchi is a far better 1LW or even 2LW for Edmonton then Lucic on a MUCH better contract. He would easy breasy get 60-70 pts with either Mcdavid or Draisatl.

Gudbranson gives some bite to a weak and easily destroyed defensive group in Edmonton.

If Edmonton can manage to get back on track that 2019 1st would be on the lower end so the balance is quite easily there pal

We’re not desperate and with RNH on 1LW were fine there too. Baertschi is a 3LW with a career high of 35 points, he wouldn’t be anywhere near McDavid or Draisaitl.

Gudbransom is absolutely awful and would be a healthy scratch. We have Lucic/Khaira/Kassian/Nurse/Larsson, bite is not something we’re lacking. Terrible offer

 

[ChaoticOrange]

The problem is that we can't play him on the 4th line, except for maybe a game here and there. I'll believe its "allowed" when it happens. Its definitely merited. This is the problem - coaches are handcuffed by this player.

I’d rather be handcuffed than give up assets like Yamamoto and a 1st just to get worthless junk in return.

 

[HabsTown]

Milan Lucic (could drop NTC since Habs were is 2nd choice)
Kailer Yamamoto
Caleb Jones


Karl Alzner
Andrew Shaw
Nikita Scherbak

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Milan Lucic (could drop NTC since Habs were is 2nd choice)
Kailer Yamamoto
Caleb Jones


Karl Alzner
Andrew Shaw
Nikita Scherbak

Giving up one cap dump for two cap dumps that make more combined than Lucic does doesn’t make any sense either and - again - Yamamoto is not going anywhere. He’s got top line upside and was great with a capital G this offseason.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Because they're trapped in an abomination of a deal with no escape in sight? Lucic is addition by subtraction just in terms of icetime, let alone salary.

I have to agree though, that theres no way a blue chip like Yamo goes out with that much retention involved - one or the other.

Meh we will have to see what happens after the lockout next year. There's a small possibility owners negotiate another round of compliance buyouts in the next CBA. Otherwise if Lucic has another brutal season and continues to be useless and slides down the lineup they could always put him on waivers and send him down to Bakersfield. I don't think Lucic would spend the next 4 years riding the bus in Bakersfield, I think he would say his back hurts go home and collect the rest of his contract on LTIR.

 

[Scintillating10]

With what cap space?

Bouchard is looking great too. So a Lucic + Bouchard trade for Patches (who may not have resigned) would be another bad Chia trade.

Lucic making what Patches makes. Less this season.

 

[M2Beezy]

We’re not desperate and with RNH on 1LW were fine there too. Baertschi is a 3LW with a career high of 35 points, he wouldn’t be anywhere near McDavid or Draisaitl.

Gudbransom is absolutely awful and would be a healthy scratch. We have Lucic/Khaira/Kassian/Nurse/Larsson, bite is not something we’re lacking. Terrible offer

Haha suit yourself

 

[AnCatDubh]

I think the bigger problem with trying to trade Lucic its that the NMC will require him to be protected in the Seattle expansion draft. Even if the Oilers can find someone to take a salary dump, will the same team be willing to expose another player because they have to protect Lucic? If they really want rid of him, it might be more painful then would normally be expected.

 

[Hockey Rush]

I'd love to do a deal like

Lucic + Poolparty for Goldobin Lol. totally unrealistic though.

Okay.. Serious pants on.

****

Lucic
Poolparty
EDM 3rd Rd Pick 2019

to Vancouver for

Virtanen
Leipsic

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

I'd love to do a deal like

Lucic + Poolparty for Goldobin Lol. totally unrealistic though.

Okay.. Serious pants on.

****

Lucic
Poolparty
EDM 3rd Rd Pick 2019

to Vancouver for

Virtanen
Leipsic

EDM wanta to get rid of Lucic but don't want to add any good pieces to get rid of him. Maybe swap Poolparty for a protected 1st and take out Virtanen/Leipsic or something.

Lucic
1st
3rd
C prospect

For
Leipsic/Virtanen
4th
Bit of cap.

Edmonton doesn't have to give up any good prospects but some picks and they get a player who could play for them. Idk.

 

[Hockey Rush]

EDM wanta to get rid of Lucic but don't want to add any good pieces to get rid of him. Maybe swap Poolparty for a protected 1st and take out Virtanen/Leipsic or something.

Lucic
1st
3rd
C prospect

For
Leipsic/Virtanen
4th
Bit of cap.

Edmonton doesn't have to give up any good prospects but some picks and they get a player who could play for them. Idk.

Who would you consider Edmonton's "C" prospects? and would you consider any "B" grade ones? if there was no poolparty I would assume Virtanen would also not be included.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Who would you consider Edmonton's "C" prospects? and would you consider any "B" grade ones? if there was no poolparty I would assume Virtanen would also not be included.

Idk im not Edmonton fan but EDM fans would look for a deal which Vancouver would help them. But in reality EDM would actually have to give up something good to get rid of Lucic.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Career high of 53 points. Sure.

Right but 3 point career high Yamamoto is worth more LOL

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Giving up one cap dump for two cap dumps that make more combined than Lucic does doesn’t make any sense either and - again - Yamamoto is not going anywhere. He’s got top line upside and was great with a capital G this offseason.

Oh heres why you think hes worth more than Kreider

Yamamoto has top line upside when half the leagues prospects have top line upside. Delusional at best

 

[Three On Zero]

must just be looking at the stats line and PTS column.
Larsson is a legit top 4 Dman if not a #2. lol @#6.

High end #3, and that's pushing it

 

[greengoblin]

No GM with a half of brain is going to take on Lucic and his horrible contract.

 

[goonybird]

High end #3, and that's pushing it

mmm no. He's a high end shut down D

 

[TFHockey]

With terrible offers like we've seen here the team is better off just playing Lucic and hopefully have him return to 50 point form. Losing Puljujarvi or Yamamoto just to move out Lucic is too much to take.

 

[Menzinger]

He’s likely untradeable until the last couple years of his deal.

At least until AFTER expansion happens.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Oh heres why you think hes worth more than Kreider

Yamamoto has top line upside when half the leagues prospects have top line upside. Delusional at best

Don’t be ridiculous. The kid went 22nd overall and ripped up the WHL when he went back.

‘Half the league’s prospects’ my ass. He’d be no worse than your third best prospect .

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Right but 3 point career high Yamamoto is worth more LOL

That’s like saying 3 point career high Chytil is worth more than Ryan Strome why?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Milan Lucic (could drop NTC since Habs were is 2nd choice)
Kailer Yamamoto
Caleb Jones


Karl Alzner
Andrew Shaw
Nikita Scherbak

So the oilers give up 1 cap dump for 2 cap dumps? How does this make sense?