Value of: Lucic at 50% + 8th overall pick

[PetterssonSimp]

What number is the last pick of the draft? That would be about the value you’d receive in trade

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Severson, and one of the 2nds NJ obtained via trade for Lucic (25% retained) and 8th OA

That’s interesting. I don’t like not having a first but Severson would slot in nicely with Nurse on the 2nd pairing.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

What number is the last pick of the draft? That would be about the value you’d receive in trade

Obviously you didn’t bother to read through the thread first. Lucic at 50% + 8th overall has significant value.

 

[Mancini79]

Jason Zucker

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Jason Zucker

Not worth the pick. There was a pretty recent thread made by a Wild fan offering Zucker + 12 for 7 or 8.

 

[LDF]

Obviously you didn’t bother to read through the thread first. Lucic at 50% + 8th overall has significant value.

the value of what you are saying is not really enuf to entice someone to take Lucic off your hands.

 

[blue_n_copper]

What a terrible idea The Oilers absolutely should not trade away their first round draft pick just to get 3 million in cap relief. Their cap situation is nowhere near as dire as some make it out to be anyway. I would rather buy him out than do that and I don't see any pressing need to do either. McDavid and Draisatl are not going to turn into pumpkins if we still have Looch's contract at midnight.

 

[IB]

How much of a market is there for Milan Lucic at 3 million for 4 more years + the 8th overall pick in the 2019 draft?

Add Puljujarvi

for second + prospect from Carolina

Dundon seems like the type that would make this happen.

 

[Juicy Pop]

The Oilers are better off living with Lucic and taking the best player available at #8.

At worst, you're only wasting ~$3M in cap compared to what you would pay a similarly productive player to fill his spot. If you're not going to spend that difference on a FA, then why the hell do you want to clear salary in the first place?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

The Oilers are better off living with Lucic and taking the best player available at #8.

At worst, you're only wasting ~$3M in cap compared to what you would pay a similarly productive player to fill his spot. If you're not going to spend that difference on a FA, then why the hell do you want to clear salary in the first place?

Absolutely. 3 mil in cap relief isn’t much when you’re giving up what should be a damned good player at 8.

 

[LDF]

The Oilers are better off living with Lucic and taking the best player available at #8.

At worst, you're only wasting ~$3M in cap compared to what you would pay a similarly productive player to fill his spot. If you're not going to spend that difference on a FA, then why the hell do you want to clear salary in the first place?

i hate to disappoint you, the team will need maneuverability in the coming yrs. while at the same time fix the club where additions can be done. granted maybe some of those addition will be little compared to what others may want.

now think about it, pay now, for at a later date the team will be in a better position to really improve the team.

 

[Juicy Pop]

i hate to disappoint you, the team will need maneuverability in the coming yrs. while at the same time fix the club where additions can be done. granted maybe some of those addition will be little compared to what others may want.

now think about it, pay now, for at a later date the team will be in a better position to really improve the team.

Right, and once you get speed you'll be clamoring for another big bastard to jostle near the net. You need all sorts and one should not come at the expense of another just to fill out to some ideal.

 

[Guns n Roses]

Ok Montreal accepts. Lucy at 50% plus 8 overall, done.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

i hate to disappoint you, the team will need maneuverability in the coming yrs. while at the same time fix the club where additions can be done. granted maybe some of those addition will be little compared to what others may want.

now think about it, pay now, for at a later date the team will be in a better position to really improve the team.

3 million in cap space is absolutely nothing. Certainly not worth giving up 8th overall and getting garbage back.

I’d rather buy out Lucic and deal with the dead cap but still have 8th.

 

[Guffman]

I would rather live with the dead cap from a Lucic buyout than do that.

A shame that a buyout is essentially pointless based on how that contract was designed.

 

[HOPE]

Lehkonen + 2x 2nd?

 

[Scintillating10]

I don't care about Lucic and his cap hit if the Habs continue to not use our cap space anyways. I like Primeau just as much if not more than you do but we have Price and Primeau can be spared. Price is 31, not 36.

The 8th OA pick is worth it IMO.

End of day Lucic is a deterrent to the team. Why weaken the team why removing 6 million of caproom? Doesn't make sense. Sounds like you are under rating Primeau and over rating the pick. It is a bad move

 

[LDF]

3 million in cap space is absolutely nothing. Certainly not worth giving up 8th overall and getting garbage back.

I’d rather buy out Lucic and deal with the dead cap but still have 8th.

ref the bold, this i didn't know was part of the proposal. my bad, i should learn to read better.

i will be back with my outrageous proposal.

 

[mc1laren]

I'll bite

Goldobin, Hutton for Lucic (25% retained) and 8th OA.

You get Goldobin to slot into the top 6 and Hutton to play top 4 minutes. You could probably then get rid of one of your other more expensive dman and use the combined cap space to go after a UFA to shore up your top two lines.

We'll keep Lucic (4.5m) to play on our 4th line and try to move out Sutter (4.5m) who is replaced by Gaudette (ELC). We'll move Lucic when we need additional cap space to sign Hughes, Juolevi, Pettersson.

Canucks end up with 2 top 10 picks. Edmonton saves much needed cap space to go after a UFA and get two young players who can play at the NHL level.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

End of day Lucic is a deterrent to the team. Why weaken the team why removing 6 million of caproom? Doesn't make sense. Sounds like you are under rating Primeau and over rating the pick. It is a bad move

Edmonton has 4 prospect goalies between the ages of 20 and 24. And we just used a 2nd on Rodrigue last year. Primeau is just not that enticing to us because we’re swimming in prospect goalies, and if you did think he was some kind of surefire elite starter you wouldn’t be offering him. Don’t oversell your prospect.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I'll bite

Goldobin, Hutton for Lucic (25% retained) and 8th OA.

You get Goldobin to slot into the top 6 and Hutton to play top 4 minutes. You could probably then get rid of one of your other more expensive dman and use the combined cap space to go after a UFA to shore up your top two lines.

We'll keep Lucic (4.5m) to play on our 4th line and try to move out Sutter (4.5m) who is replaced by Gaudette (ELC). We'll move Lucic when we need additional cap space to sign Hughes, Juolevi, Pettersson.

Canucks end up with 2 top 10 picks. Edmonton saves much needed cap space to go after a UFA and get two young players who can play at the NHL level.

Goldobin has no business in an NHL top 6 and who exactly of Klefbom or Nurse do you think Hutton is beating out for top 4 minutes?

Easy pass. No interest in handing a division rival a top ten pick for spare parts.

 

[Pi]

I don't think Edmonton should entertain trading the 8th overall pick. They need all the picks they can get.

Lucic is a PWF. They tend to break down as they age. Wouldn't surprise me to see if be "injured" and LTIR'ed taking care of that problem...or if not, you can always try to get Seattle to take him.

 

[Connor McConnor]

You might get a rebuilding team to take that. But I wouldn't expect more than an early 2nd and a middling prospect. 4 years is a long time.

lmao

 

[mc1laren]

Goldobin has no business in an NHL top 6 and who exactly of Klefbom or Nurse do you think Hutton is beating out for top 4 minutes?

Easy pass. No interest in handing a division rival a top ten pick for spare parts.

Goldobin is not effective in a bottom 6 role. He either plays top 6 or doesn't play. Mid-way into the season he was on pace for 50 points. Im going to assume he could probably hit that total with McDavid. How much have you seen Goldobin play (genuinely curious)?

Hutton could play his off-wing.

I just don't see anyone other than a rebuilding team taking on Lucic's contract. There is only a handful of teams that would be willing to take on Lucic and have the cap space to do so. I just don't see anyone giving up more than a late draft pick and/or a mid-tier prospect for that package. I offered 4.5 million in cap space (25% v 50% retention), a top 4 defenseman who recently had a great resurgent year with the Canucks, and potential top 6 winger (former 1st rounder that has to improve his play without the puck). This allows you to move another defenseman like Sekera (5.5million) out. That's 10 million in cap space less Hutton and Goldobins contracts.

You'd be giving a division rival a chance at a good player, not actually giving up a good player. That player could end up being a Yakupov or a Reinhart just as much as he could be a Pettersson. Draft picks are, for the most part, unknown commodities.

 

[CupsOverCash]

If I was the NYR Id be all over that.