justafan22
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Value of: Lucic at 50% + 8th overall pick
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justafan22
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If this trade happened, it means you could expose him in an expansion draft since he already waived his NMC, FWIW.
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Why would we retain 3m for the next 4 years AND throw a 8th overall pick in the trash for only 3m of cap relief?
That would be beyond stupid, like Chia level bad.
That would be beyond stupid, like Chia level bad.
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Would you trade the 8th with lucic if you didn't retain a cent, but only got back a late 2nd?
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Not true at all...
Fact is, if e waives for a trade, he will ask the receiving team in ANY DEAL to honor his NMC (keep it as is).
Therefore he'd still need to be protected. Lcic won't take the risk of being sent down to the AHL as soon as he gets traded.
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I would rather live with the dead cap from a Lucic buyout than do that.
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justafan22
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Is that true? I know he was dealt before it kicked in, but Subban's NMC wasn't honoured by Nashville.
I don't know that I've seen a player with anywhere near as many "how the hell do we get rid of him" threads than Lucic. Pure comedy.
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I think the Oilers would be best served to keep the 8th overall pick. As poor as Lucic has been it's not like a FA they could sign for 3M would be a huge upgrade on what Lucic produces. A 3M AAV typically gets you a UFA like Eaves, Beagle, Roussell, Foligno, Cogalino, Ryan etc. Those are players that are bottom 6 forwards but would not likely move the needle that much for Edmonton and would not help them address their lack of scoring depth.
If I were the Oilers I'd take whoever the team felt the best forward was and let the player develop for a year or 2. Going for a quick fix and attaching #8 to just to move Lucic will just compound the Oilers problems, as they need scoring depth and the best way to accumulate that is through the draft. The next GM needs to be patient and let the team develop it's depth internally. I think next season with Benson & Yamamoto up front, plus Bouchard and Jones on the back end the team should start to turn their scoring woes around.
That being said, if this was offered around the league I would hope the Wings jump on it. I'd offer any of our 2nds for the deal, maybe even something like #35+the lowest 2nd of of the NYI/SJ or our own 3rd. If we really needed to we could just send Lucic down to the AHL and he'd only be around 2.1M in dead cap space. For the record I think I'd also do Lucic (no retention) + 8th overall pick for Wings 3rd as well.
If I were the Oilers I'd take whoever the team felt the best forward was and let the player develop for a year or 2. Going for a quick fix and attaching #8 to just to move Lucic will just compound the Oilers problems, as they need scoring depth and the best way to accumulate that is through the draft. The next GM needs to be patient and let the team develop it's depth internally. I think next season with Benson & Yamamoto up front, plus Bouchard and Jones on the back end the team should start to turn their scoring woes around.
That being said, if this was offered around the league I would hope the Wings jump on it. I'd offer any of our 2nds for the deal, maybe even something like #35+the lowest 2nd of of the NYI/SJ or our own 3rd. If we really needed to we could just send Lucic down to the AHL and he'd only be around 2.1M in dead cap space. For the record I think I'd also do Lucic (no retention) + 8th overall pick for Wings 3rd as well.
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The new team can choose to honour a NMC after a trade, but in every instance where a player with a NMC has waived it as part of a trade, it was conditional on the acquiring team offering it to him there. Lucic isn't waiving his NMC without being certain a new team will give it to him.
Subban was traded before his NMC kicked in. He had now way to compel Nashville to honour it.
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As bad as Lucic is, Oilers isn't retaining a cent on him if they're packaging the 8th overall with him.
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Trading away a top ten pick for a few million of relief is not a good idea.
If you hit on that pick you could easily get way more monetary value out of the difference between an ELC contract and buying comparable production on the market as compared to 3M in relief for those years.
If you hit on that pick you could easily get way more monetary value out of the difference between an ELC contract and buying comparable production on the market as compared to 3M in relief for those years.
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Pretty sure not a team in league would turn that down so obviously bad for Oilers. 3 million for 4 years is nothing for a 4th liner if your also getting the 8th OA pick.
Because he was traded BEFORE his NMC kicked in, Therefore, the reeiving team doesn't have to honour it.
Lucic will talk w/ his agent and make sure ANY deal where he's a part of will have some kind of clause where he stays @ NHL lvl, he won't go ride the bus in the AHL that's for sure
If the Oilers retain AND add the 8OA.. saying a 2nd for a return is pretty foolish. Lucic can play, he just isn't worth the cap hit anymore.
There are no trades I can think of that packaged a top 10 pick with a retained salary that brought back so little. Like. None.
There are no trades I can think of that packaged a top 10 pick with a retained salary that brought back so little. Like. None.
