Salary Cap: Little to no cap increase the next four years

[DInTheB]

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[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Flat/near-flat is perfect for us. More capspace to weaponize.

Otoh, Disney/ABC/ESPN/ESPN+ with their hands in the NHL cookie jar, what could go wrong?

 

[MBH]

This really f***s teams like Edmonton, Chicago, Toronto and some of these teams near the cap.
Also, the UFA classes are going to get stung.
Taylor Hall...good luck bro!

 

[Ricelund]

Good news for Detroit.

 

[MBH]

So is the idea that they'll keep the cap higher this year... but then recoup some of the lost money from last year and this year over the next 3-4 years?

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Good news for Detroit.

Maybe?

We have next to no salary on the books after this season and next. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ilitch spending at only the cap floor or just above it over this time frame.

 

[DInTheB]

So is the idea that they'll keep the cap higher this year... but then recoup some of the lost money from last year and this year over the next 3-4 years?

I assume that is the case. Players are going to be livid but they don’t have much recourse.

 

[Ricelund]

Maybe?

We have next to no salary on the books after this season and next. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ilitch spending at only the cap floor or just above it over this time frame.

Teams will be giving up assets to clear cap space.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Teams will be giving up assets to clear cap space.

I understand the concept. My concern is how willing Ilitch will be to take on bad salaries to get assets. He's not exactly as free with his money as his father was.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

I'm thinking we'll finally see some (TJ caliber+late 1st+decent prospect, not blue-chip, for conditionals) type trades. Not if, but when. Only so much LTIR, cap maneuvers etc. to be done.

Some teams will find their LTIR loopholes CHI etc.

 

[Henkka]

That's interesting.

Cap has been flat already for 2 years and then eztra 4 years....

This is gonna eat current contenders alive.

 

[Frk It]

I understand the concept. My concern is how willing Ilitch will be to take on bad salaries to get assets. He's not exactly as free with his money as his father was.

People hated when Holland spent to the cap and we still sucked.

Isn’t this better? Why should we be spending to the cap right now?

It seems like being less trigger happy in free agency and having more cap flexibility is a good thing right now. To me it’s being “smart”, not “cheap”.

 

[ArmChairGM89]

What a time to be a dumpster fire!

 

[Lil Sebastian Cossa]

People hated when Holland spent to the cap and we still sucked.

Isn’t this better? Why should we be spending to the cap right now?

It seems like being less trigger happy in free agency and having more cap flexibility is a good thing right now. To me it’s being “smart”, not “cheap”.

Oh no, it's completely that he's cheap and he's a terrible owner and we're gonna suck forever.

/s

 

[Killerjas]

Now gimme those 1st round picks because other teams overpay average players

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Interesting.

I would hope Detroit uses their cap space wisely.

With the way this cap thing sounds, they should be able to get some good talent at a cheaper hit.

 

[Shaman464]

NHLPA is going to have a shit fit. Flat salaries means dues don't increase.

 

[kliq]

I understand the concept. My concern is how willing Ilitch will be to take on bad salaries to get assets. He's not exactly as free with his money as his father was.

Well we saw it this year with Staal. Maybe he doesn’t spend right to the cap, but I have to imagine he’s willing to spend to a degree.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

NHLPA is going to have a shit fit. Flat salaries means dues don't increase.

Players pay $30/day during the season for union dues so I'm not sure what you're talking about here. It's not linked to the cap or salaries.

 

[BSHH]

I understand the concept. My concern is how willing Ilitch will be to take on bad salaries to get assets. He's not exactly as free with his money as his father was.

Actually, we do not know how willingly C. Illitch will spend money yet, since the Red Wings and the Tigers have been to bad to invest larger amounts for players. But for what it’s worth, the Red Wings recently took Staal‘s contract for a pick and the Tigers spent € 16m to improve the return in the Verlander trade.

Gruß,
BSHH

 

[Konnan511]

Well we saw it this year with Staal. Maybe he doesn’t spend right to the cap, but I have to imagine he’s willing to spend to a degree.

Agreed, especially, like with Staal, the actual salary is substantially less than the cap hit. I think Stevie would be all over that.

 

[Shaman464]

Players pay $30/day during the season for union dues so I'm not sure what you're talking about here. It's not linked to the cap or salaries.

Higher overall salaries means they can charge more dues. It wasn't always 30/game. And when overall salaries increase, so do the dues.

 

[Unfriendly Ghost]

The Wings still make money spending to the cap while not even making the playoffs. It's probably not a big deal to spend a bit more if it lands some big ticket assets.

Especially considering Little Caesars is doing fine in quarantine, so it's unlikely Olympia needs money badly enough to try to get it from the Wings' payroll.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Higher overall salaries means they can charge more dues. It wasn't always 30/game. And when overall salaries increase, so do the dues.

When was the last time they raised the dues? Do you have a source showing that as salaries increase so do the dues?

It just seems like you're trying to make the union bent out of shape about something with zero evidence.

 

[TheMule93]

This should lower seiders cap hit by a couple of million