Oh, I was talking about Erik Gudbranson. Since Alex Gudbranson isn't property of any NHL team, none have his rights so I don't think the Leafs can actually make a trade for him. The logistics of trading an NHL draft pick to an ECHL team also don't make much sense because the player could just sign with an NHL team if he gets offered a contract by one.
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Oh, I was talking about Erik Gudbranson. Since Alex Gudbranson isn't property of any NHL team, none have his rights so I don't think the Leafs can actually make a trade for him. The logistics of trading an NHL draft pick to an ECHL team also don't make much sense because the player could just sign with an NHL team if he gets offered a contract by one.
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I find it hilarious that on HF the sentiment is always that it needs to be quality for quality in a trade (despite it rarely ever being true). Yet as soon as a player is rumoured to be available for quality, that available player is no longer considered quality.
Availability =/ disappointment
Availability =/ disappointment
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So far they seemed to be overstated. His decision making on the breakout sometimes isnt the best, but he has played well in both the D and O zone.
The list of Leafs players what they are willing to give up in trade is almost nonexistent, which is pretty laughable. If their sixth best forward (Kapanen) isn't available it tells it all. The only available players in Leafs are players with negative value (Zaitsev, Hainsey, Marleau) or some waiver claim stuff (Goat, Sparks, Lindholm) so good luck to trade that crap for top 4 D. Late first isn't that valuable of asset after all. Jets got Statsny for 19 games + playoffs for first and some C-level prospect.
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Which is fine my friend we both see a lot of potential in him which is why we both get along on this board We see the same sorta things for the most part in our players.
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Ive thought this for a while now. Sandin very quickly passed him on the depth chart.
Ive been kinda "meh" on Liljegren. Hes just not really impressed me much since his pre-draft year.
Ive been kinda "meh" on Liljegren. Hes just not really impressed me much since his pre-draft year.
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Petro isn't a "top 4", he's a "rental #1". We're better off building for the long term
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Why would the Leafs move all that for a guy who has 1.5 years left and by Blues fans account, hasn't been as good this year as in year's past?
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Just because a player is available doesnt mean they are now trash.... He still has potential, he has looked very good since being drafted and may end up the best D in that draft.
Kapanen isnt available due to cap reasons, not because he is an untouchable part of this future. He provides well beyond his pay, and estimated pay into next year.
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Yes but with who? I don't know that liljergren is a long term solution, and honestly nylander I don't think will be there very long(maybe remainder of this year) but I could see him being dealt at draft or next year at some point.
I tought petro had 1.5 years left on his contract? 2 playoff runs with petro is pretty good, and I feel like you guys can prob resign him for another 3-5 years after that, if things are working out.
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If I'm any team I'm asking Kapanen, Sandin or Johnsson for any deal for top 4 dman. All the other leafs prospect's mentioned havent shown me enough to guarantee they will be nhl regulars.
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he's a rental in the context of the Leafs' likely compete window built around this core, which is probably 8-15 years if we look at teams built similarly in the cap era (Chicago, LA, Wsh, Pits). Building to be a little lower peak for a longer time is what the Leafs should do
I don't know why there's the sense that the Leafs need to go all in right now. Tampa is currently the best team that the NHL has seen in years and they're going to decline from here for cap reasons. Toronto gets a bit of a cap crunch next year but gets some relief after that with Marleau gone, and the best players on the team are going to be good for at least another 5-6 years. We can afford to wait and see
Petro does have another year after this, but he's not someone we could afford to keep after that - rental in the context of the Leafs compete window
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Okay, but no team is going to come close to that package let alone just 7 years of Nylander for 1.5 years of Pietrangelo. Why do people insist on a "leaf tax" where they grossly overpay in every deal.
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He's not going to be the best D in that draft, Liljegren has done nothing that would suggest that. TBH he has been rather underwhelming and has definitely gone down in value since the '17 draft. Liljegren alone gets you nothing that would get the Leafs closer to the cup or even say conference finals.
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His value has gone down? Playing the top pairing in the AHL as a teenager on the team that won the championship loses you value? He’s been very good.
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I don’t agree with this. Where is this upside with Liljegren everyone talks about. This upside was talked about three years ago but nothing he’s done since being drafted screams high upside. Sandin coming into the AHL and doing what he’s done shows much more upside than Liljegren.
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