Lehner first goalie off ice at Golden Knights' skate, appears to be Game 4 starter

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Lehner is dope, guy turns so pink. Figured he’d do a better job than rosey old MAF.
 

SotasicA

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WATTAGE4451

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Yhea, 'cause the OT goal wasn't a 2 on 0 breakaway

How can you leave a 2 on 0 breakaway in overtime.
They made a mistake in overtime that would have never happened if fleury didn't give up a gift to force overtime. They completely dominated the rest of that game.

Vegas actually was worse this game giving up several breakaways and more shots but lehner stole it(also price gave up a soft goal of his own in the 3rd)
 

bobholly39

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IDK why everyone's acting like Lehner's some sort of washed-up scrub
Just a couple months ago Fleury was viewed as an anchor and Lehner the saviour

I agree, he's not, he's a really good goalie.

I still think this was a risky move (obviously seems to have paid off) - because I was pretty confident Fleury would have a strong bounce back game. Which meant even if Lehner did good, there's not a ton of upside (unless they completely gave up on Fleury) - because Fleury having a good game vs Lehner having a good game is pretty comparable level.

Flip side though, Lehner was much more likely to have a bad game than Fleury - simply by virtue of coming off cold off the bench (which didn't work out so good last time they tried).

Vegas won, so they'll take it. But this still creates potential problems moving forward. What if Habs win game 4, in pretty convincing fashion with ~4-5 goals. Do you bring in Fleury or Lehner for game 6?
 
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I dont understand this lol. Lehner is an amazing goalie, definitely one of the best in the league. Why is everyone treating him like Jarry?

Well, he did have a real bad game against the Avs, and people's memory can go back more than 2 weeks ago apparently.

My beef was mostly about how it showed a complete collapse of trust between team and goalie (MAF, specifically)
 

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They made a mistake in overtime that would have never happened if fleury didn't give up a gift to force overtime. They completely dominated the rest of that game.

Vegas actually was worse this game giving up several breakaways and more shots but lehner stole it(also price gave up a soft goal of his own in the 3rd)

Breakways and scoring chances were actually less this fame than game 3. Knights kept the Habs outside and were, usually, much more effective at clearing rebounds.

And "oh the breakaway doesn't happen if Fleury hadn't made the mistake". That's not how this works. You don't stop skating and let the other team win because your goalie make a mistake. That's loser talk.

Knights protected Lehner tonight a shitton more than they protected Fleury in fame 3.
 

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Lehner played really well; Vegas also played a much tighter defensive game. It's still not a decision I would have made as a coach, but it's hard to argue with the result.

Now the question becomes whether DeBoer goes back to Fleury for the home game. His post-game comments seem to suggest that might be the plan. Fleury does seem to play better at home...
 

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Breakways and scoring chances were actually less this fame than game 3. Knights kept the Habs outside and were, usually, much more effective at clearing rebounds.

And "oh the breakaway doesn't happen if Fleury hadn't made the mistake". That's not how this works. You don't stop skating and let the other team win because your goalie make a mistake. That's loser talk.

Knights protected Lehner tonight a shitton more than they protected Fleury in fame 3.
Clearly, you are just a fleury fan.

Fleury was probably the best goalie in the league this year, but if you want to say lehner was protected more than fleury in game 3 to diminish lehners play, youre delusional.

Vegas dominated game 3, they only gave up 8 shots in the first 2 periods although 1 was a breakaway goal. They could not have sheltered fleury more than they did that game. Yes they completely screwed up in overtime, and there was nothing fleury could have done on that overtime goal,, but mistakes happen. No defense gives up 0 chances a game.

They gave up several breakaways in game 4 as well as more shots overall.

Lehner played great, but clearly your loyalty is to fleury. The high danger chances in game 4 were 17-2 canadians. High danger chances were 13-10 Golden Knights in game 3.
For that matter, they were 15-9 canadians in game 2, and 19-14 golden knights in game 1.

Lehner stole that game 4. It was the worst game the knights played all series and he faced more high danger chances than fleurry did in any game.

You will not find anyone other than fleury loyalists who hate lehner on your fanbase who will agree with you that the knights defense played better in game 4. Fans of all 29 other teams watching will all say lehner stole that game.

You clearly are not objective about this.
 
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