News Article: Lebreton...Interesting...NCC

[Golden_Jet]

Why don't you close the multi level parking in the Market and stop the on-street parking there as well. And let's see if there is a market left!

They mentioned that on CTVNews Ottawa. When they were talking about how to improve the market, council they said would evaluating a lot of things. One being closing that garage.
I was a little surprised.

 

[Beech]

They mentioned that on CTVNews Ottawa. When they were talking about how to improve the market, council they said would evaluating a lot of things. One being closing that garage.
I was a little surprised.

go ahead... taxes are easy.

do yo know how much they have added as service charges to your water bill?

keep going? instead of having tourists pay it.. we can.

Councilor Meaghan wrote me an e-mail 5 years ago.. about the water bill.. It was an Oh MY God moment.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

 

[ottawah]

I think the key is the ability to negotiate for more land. Likely sticking point would be what the Sens want to do with it and what the NCC wants its used for, but hopefully they can come to a mutual agreement.

 

[JD1]

This is going to be interesting

Seems most of the other bids were interested in the real estate angle of this deal but Andlauer is primarily interested in the hockey team. Good for us. Not necessarily good for the NCC. It'll be interesting to watch this play out.

Personally I'd tear down Lesplanade Laurier and buy out the north side of Gloucester and build the rink there

 

[OmniSens]

This is going to be interesting

Seems most of the other bids were interested in the real estate angle of this deal but Andlauer is primarily interested in the hockey team. Good for us. Not necessarily good for the NCC. It'll be interesting to watch this play out.

Personally I'd tear down Lesplanade Laurier and buy out the north side of Gloucester and build the rink there

Being a Pineview resident, I approve!

 

[Wondercarrot]

This is going to be interesting

Seems most of the other bids were interested in the real estate angle of this deal but Andlauer is primarily interested in the hockey team. Good for us. Not necessarily good for the NCC. It'll be interesting to watch this play out.

Personally I'd tear down Lesplanade Laurier and buy out the north side of Gloucester and build the rink there

Me too, that would be really cool.

 

[Micklebot]

This is going to be interesting

Seems most of the other bids were interested in the real estate angle of this deal but Andlauer is primarily interested in the hockey team. Good for us. Not necessarily good for the NCC. It'll be interesting to watch this play out.

Personally I'd tear down Lesplanade Laurier and buy out the north side of Gloucester and build the rink there

That's an interesting option, I have no idea how feasible it is but location wise, it's seems close to ideal if enoughland can be bought out.

 

[starling]

This is going to be interesting

Seems most of the other bids were interested in the real estate angle of this deal but Andlauer is primarily interested in the hockey team. Good for us. Not necessarily good for the NCC. It'll be interesting to watch this play out.

Personally I'd tear down Lesplanade Laurier and buy out the north side of Gloucester and build the rink there

Lol no. Claridge is already building on Lebreton. Lebreton IS the reason why Claridge (Malhotras) joined the bid.
No other parcel comes close to Lebreton potential for development.

Right now they are playing it cool and pretending to look at other options, precisely because they want it so much, and their goal is to get as much they could. That's Negotiations 101.

They will not pass on an opportunity to get a huge swath of land for free from NCC, the land they would otherwise have to compete with other developers one parcel at a time, and pay tens of Millions for.

 

[Beech]

Lol no. Claridge is already building on Lebreton. Lebreton IS the reason why Claridge (Malhotras) joined the bid.
No other parcel comes close to Lebreton potential for development.

Right now they are playing it cool and pretending to look at other options, precisely because they want it so much, and their goal is to get as much they could. That's Negotiations 101.

They will not pass on an opportunity to get a huge swath of land for free from NCC, the land they would otherwise have to compete with other developers one parcel at a time, and pay tens of Millions for.

hey Starling,

you seem up to date. That lawsuit by the indigenous community over that land, how is it going?

And I only briefly followed, but what is happening with Kirby Whiteduck... in 2016 he was talking about that land and benefits to the Indigenous community. Now I see he sits on the NCC commission!!!

 

[JD1]

Lol no. Claridge is already building on Lebreton. Lebreton IS the reason why Claridge (Malhotras) joined the bid.
No other parcel comes close to Lebreton potential for development.

Right now they are playing it cool and pretending to look at other options, precisely because they want it so much, and their goal is to get as much they could. That's Negotiations 101.

They will not pass on an opportunity to get a huge swath of land for free from NCC, the land they would otherwise have to compete with other developers one parcel at a time, and pay tens of Millions for.

Like i said, it's going to be interesting

Andlauer doesn't seem to be interested in the real estate angle. Malhotra can be contracted to build the arena, regardless of where it's built

 

[Ice-Tray]

Like i said, it's going to be interesting

Andlauer doesn't seem to be interested in the real estate angle. Malhotra can be contracted to build the arena, regardless of where it's built

Didn’t EM’s board have a an all-star line up of companies to design, build, and manage the new arena already in place?

 

[Pancakes Pancakes]

Didn’t EM’s board have a an all-star line up of companies to design, build, and manage the new arena already in place?

Yes, I am also wondering what is the deal with the companies he had brought in, like LiveNation.

 

[JD1]

Didn’t EM’s board have a an all-star line up of companies to design, build, and manage the new arena already in place?

Ya he did. I presume that Andlauer won't have issues walking away from that if he chooses

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

 

[Byron Bitz]

When can we expect shovels to hit the ground at Lebretton?

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

When can we expect shovels to hit the ground at Lebretton?

The NCC has to do a study first…. Then come up with some recommendations…. and then some public recommendations… and then another study and then pass the file to have an environmental assessment …. another report and public consultations and then some recommendations…. Oh, and then they have to consult the indigenous community and their leaders, another study and a new set of recommendations and public input…… so maybe if we’re lucky, 15 years.

 

[Game 7 Meltdown]

Didn’t EM’s board have a an all-star line up of companies to design, build, and manage the new arena already in place?

Yes. But then EM discovered that they expected to be paid.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Yes. But then EM discovered that they expected to be paid.

I thought he up and died.

 

[PlayersLtd]

Lol no. Claridge is already building on Lebreton. Lebreton IS the reason why Claridge (Malhotras) joined the bid.
No other parcel comes close to Lebreton potential for development.

Right now they are playing it cool and pretending to look at other options, precisely because they want it so much, and their goal is to get as much they could. That's Negotiations 101.

They will not pass on an opportunity to get a huge swath of land for free from NCC, the land they would otherwise have to compete with other developers one parcel at a time, and pay tens of Millions for.

Where has it ever been mentioned that it will be for free? The terms of the lease will be negotiated and this is where the whole thing is liable to unravel. Owners need control of their own stadium, the NCC is in the business of making the most out of their land. It isn't the dream marriage everyone is making it out to be.

That said I am legitimately interested in the information I'm missing that proves my pessimism wrong and yeah, I know that an arena will be a major economic driver for the rest of Lebreton and that could result in some favourable terms for Andlauer. But I just don't see the NCC offering a good enough deal to offset the lack of real ownership that sports team owners are typically after.

 

[Byron Bitz]

The NCC has to do a study first…. Then come up with some recommendations…. and then some public recommendations… and then another study and then pass the file to have an environmental assessment …. another report and public consultations and then some recommendations…. Oh, and then they have to consult the indigenous community and their leaders, another study and a new set of recommendations and public input…… so maybe if we’re lucky, 15 years.

f***in ridiculous. Firestone is such a f***in idiot for building the arena out in Kanata in the first place.

 

[Masked]

The NCC has to do a study first…. Then come up with some recommendations…. and then some public recommendations… and then another study and then pass the file to have an environmental assessment …. another report and public consultations and then some recommendations…. Oh, and then they have to consult the indigenous community and their leaders, another study and a new set of recommendations and public input…… so maybe if we’re lucky, 15 years.

Not true at all. When Rendezvous Lebreton won the original bid for Lebreton in April 2016, Melnyk was originally expecting shovels in the ground that summer.

Any delays are not from the NCC side.

Assen na yo!

 

[Beech]

Not true at all. When Rendezvous Lebreton won the original bid for Lebreton in April 2016, Melnyk was originally expecting shovels in the ground that summer.

Any delays are not from the NCC side.

Assen na yo!

are the conditions of the old project still in place.

essentially Rendez vous Lebreton is still an awarded project?

And so all Andlauer has to do is say, okay, I will start digging?

I thought that all sorts of dates had passed and the project is now at point zero again.

 

[PlayersLtd]

Not true at all. When Rendezvous Lebreton won the original bid for Lebreton in April 2016, Melnyk was originally expecting shovels in the ground that summer.

Any delays are not from the NCC side.

Assen na yo!

Well, that was obviously Melnyk looking at it with rose coloured glasses and since when did we believe anything he said?

I know decontamination could start in advance but planning and design would need to be well down the road before permits are issued and considering the requirement for significant roadways and other access channels that need to connect to the peripheral spaces, I seriously doubt much could happen before the design and planning was signed off on by 100 different stakeholders/departments.

 

[JD1]

Well, that was obviously Melnyk looking at it with rose coloured glasses and since when did we believe anything he said?

I know decontamination could start in advance but planning and design would need to be well down the road before permits are issued and considering the requirement for significant roadways and other access channels that need to connect to the peripheral spaces, I seriously doubt much could happen before the design and planning was signed off on by 100 different stakeholders/departments.

Yup. I'd buy a piece of land and get the permits and start building

I honestly can't think of a single thing in this town that involved government that wasn't completely f***ed up