Post-Game Talk: Leafs win!

[4thline]

Av fans warned us about this part of his game. They also mentioned that Kerfoot will routinely do this and will eventually drive us bonkers down the road. But other than that, he's actually be pretty decent thus far.

The bolded was a good thing -transition defense. Forced the Sens into bad areas and turnovers

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Trevor Moore is a gem. Keeps getting better and better, doesn't look out of place on the 3rd line at all.

Yup he is the exact type of player the leafs will need to find and then recycle when he prices himself out of town in the future.

 

[sparxx87]

The bolded was a good thing -transition defense. Forced the Sens into bad areas and turnovers

Definitely. Goes to show how defense gets under appreciated.

Kerfoot has shown very little offense so far, but he’s been very good defensively.

 

[Mess]

Trevor Moore is a gem. Keeps getting better and better, doesn't look out of place on the 3rd line at all.

He looks like a poor man's Connor Brown.

 

[Nylander88]

Yup he is the exact type of player the leafs will need to find and then recycle when he prices himself out of town in the future.

That's gotta be the saddest part about some of these guys. Can't get attached when we know they're leaving lol

 

[Pocket Hercules]

The bolded was a good thing -transition defense. Forced the Sens into bad areas and turnovers

Ah, my bad. Read the bolded wrong. I meant transitional offense where he f***s up a routine pass in the zone etc -- which he did last night on one of the rushes.

 

[X66]

there's not a goalie in the league that would make some of this fan base happy since there's many fans who believe the vast majority of the goals we give up are soft while all ours are unstoppable snipes

Even you can admit, that first goal in game 7 last year, and the one where Gardiner was beat the year before were absolute back breakers.

Even the Krug goal that tied the game two years ago was OMEGA-ass.

Andersen folded, maybe it's fatigue, maybe it's mental, but his game 7 record even before he's come here apparently wasn't great.

 

[kb]

Definitely. Goes to show how defense gets under appreciated.

Kerfoot has shown very little offense so far, but he’s been very good defensively.

He's allowed his wingers to shine last night because they have a safety net. I'll take that all day, every day.

 

[hotpaws]

Even you can admit, that first goal in game 7 last year, and the one where Gardiner was beat the year before were absolute back breakers.

Even the Krug goal that tied the game two years ago was OMEGA-ass.

Andersen folded, maybe it's fatigue, maybe it's mental, but his game 7 record even before he's come here apparently wasn't great.

i'm not saying he was great , i'm just saying we don't hold the opposing tender to the same standard and believe all our goals were unstoppable

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

He's allowed his wingers to shine last night because they have a safety net. I'll take that all day, every day.

agreed. he also didn't wind up with about the same amount of 5v5 points as Kadri for no reason. he makes smart plays out there and really makes the team better

 

[X66]

He looks like a poor man's Connor Brown.

The fact that they play completely different styles makes this comparison make no sense.

Brown has high player IQ but he doesn't have nearly the same speed or agility that Moore has. Moore is way more dynamic because of that speed.

Completely different play styles man lol.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

He looks like a poor man's Connor Brown.

Poor because he's paid less, not because he isnt as good or better.His game is well suited for his roll. He's not a big guy by any means but he comes up with the puck on the boards and is always in the right position.

 

[X66]

i'm not saying he was great , i'm just saying we don't hold the opposing tender to the same standard and believe all our goals were unstoppable

Normally I'd agree, but after watching years of God Awful goaltending here, I think Andersen gets a ton of credit from fans.

After all, who knows soft back breaker goals more than the fanbase that has had to watch Raycroft, Toskala and Gustavsson lol

 

[X66]

Also, Hyman has come a long way in my books since 2016.

I legit miss him on this team, he's such a horse that never quits.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

and you keep ignoring you have to get to a game 7 and while he may have played great in those games it's obvious he didn't play anywhere near that level before getting there

He would have got their in game 5 if team was down 3 games. That is the point here. Big time goalies make big time saves when the game is on the line. No questions asked.

 

[hotpaws]

He would have got their in game 5 if team was down 3 games. That is the point here. Big time goalies make big time saves when the game is on the line. No questions asked.

who's a big time goalie ?

how often do the top goalies in the league win the cup or do they always choke because there just great regular season goalies and not big time goalies ?

 

[Zizzzzy]

How long till Mikheyev replaces Kapanen/Johnsson?

Probably game 68, for two shifts.

 

[Zizzzzy]

I think Kapanen could do well on the 3rd line where he can do more himself, but he can't play with elite talent

Agreed, he does well as the primary puck carrier where he can use his speed.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

who's a big time goalie ?

how often do the top goalies in the league win the cup or do they always choke because there just great regular season goalies and not big time goalies ?[/QUOTE
They can't be predicted. You either have it or you don't. There is no stat that can get you there. I feel that Woll seeing him play in maybe 40 elite level tournaments over the years has it.

 

[joeyjojojrshabadoo]

He looks like a poor man's Connor Brown.

He's an upmarket Connor Brown if anything

 

[Vaive50]

Lets put it this way. If the Leafs had Binnington last year in the playoffs, I'm confident that they make it out of the 1st round at the very least if not going further. On the otherhand I highly doubt that the Blues would be winning the Cup with Freddy in net for them. Heck I doubt they would've even made it to the playoffs with Freddy when the Blues were in last place and then made that amazing run to even get to the playoffs.

Sure the Leafs defense isn't as good as the Blues, but at the same time alot of the saves that Freddy makes aren't exactly A1 scoring chances. I've watched almost every Leafs game since he's arrived and a vast number if not majority of his games were like the one against the Sens yesterday. Make some decent saves and then let in a softie here and there. In the majority of games I've rarely seen him standing on his head and stealing games for us especially when we're talking about the playoffs.

So maybe stat wise Freddy doesn't look bad, but much like Derozan with the Raps, he hasn't shown that he can rise to the occasion and be able to help lead this team to victory. Derozan put up very good stats while he was here, but come playoff time he was crap and the same goes for Freddy. The defense needs to help Freddy more, but the same needs to happen in return where Freddy needs to put in some amazing performances that wins the Leafs games that they otherwise would've lost and so far I haven't seen very many of those kinds of performances from him.

I don't think it is at all fair to compare Freddy to Binnington, nothing against Binnington but remember that it was his first season in the NHL starting in the second half and he only played half of the games that Freddy played before the playoffs. Let's see how good he can do in the playoffs after playing 60 or more games like Freddy does. Who won the Vezina trophy last year, it was Vasilevskiy and how much did he do for the Lightning in the playoffs after playing a full season, the Blue Jackets outscored them 19-8 in 4 games.

 

[X66]

Last night

Brown 18 minutes
Ennis 19:30 minutes
Zaitsev 24 minutes

DJ Smith folks.

 

[Duffman955]

Over the course of 60 minutes of hockey you're gonna allow quality scoring chances. The Leafs hardly allowed any high quantity of them last night. Most of what did amount to chances came from Ryan, Tkachuk, Brannstrom and Chabot who are all well above average players

And it's been 1 game ffs

Andersen getting blamed for letting in 3 goals. 2 of which were cross crease passes with blown coverage

Besides that there were 3 1-on-1 chances against him, all if them stopped

Game could easily have been 5-5

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Last night

Brown 18 minutes
Ennis 19:30 minutes
Zaitsev 24 minutes

DJ Smith folks.

he's gonna suck, but his players are atrocious. There's pretty much no way he can avoid giving minutes to a bad player

 

[Kamiccolo]

I am not getting the Kerfoot hate. Are the people taking issue just looking at the box score? I thought he was excellent. i don't have the numbers here, not even sure if they are tracked this early, but he was a beast along the boards, and it felt like nearly every shift he was able to get possession and kill some offensive zone minutes.

He was strong on the puck and I saw him using his body along the boards to battle, which is opposite of the scouting report I got when he was traded here.

Is this another case of fans picking a scape goat and using whatever bias to only look for his mistakes? Let's not forget how useless Kadri was a lot of last year for us, Kerfoot isn't doing any worse for less money.