Speculation: Leafs upcoming cap crunch
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You cannot Orpik someone. It’s cap circumvention. Orpik is an exception. Also look at the contract he was bought out of and what the Caps signed him to. With the incentives it’s basically the same cap hit.
So if “Orpik”-ing Marleau means trading assets to have him bought out so you can re-sign him at $6M instead of $6.25M I guess the League would allow that...
So if “Orpik”-ing Marleau means trading assets to have him bought out so you can re-sign him at $6M instead of $6.25M I guess the League would allow that...
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I don't know how the Leafs are going to do it. Clearly according to HF these guys aren't even as good as their comparables but will be asking for 15M and 13M. Shame the Leafs were the only team to grab guys with only self interest. Lucky other fans that their players won't take them to the cleaners 
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I believe the Leafs will have about 32 million in cap space after the cap increases to 83 million and Horton's 5.3 milllion is put on IR.
Matthews, Marner and kapanen take a massive chunk of that, lets say they take 24 million, leaving 8 million to essentially fill the line up with low wage deals to fill the other 10 roster spots. Which is entirely possibly, especially if we shed Browns 2 million.
We will be forced to put a lot of ELC or veteran minimum contracts next year, and it may be a low point for the team depth wise, especially defensively, but it is possible.
Matthews, Marner and kapanen take a massive chunk of that, lets say they take 24 million, leaving 8 million to essentially fill the line up with low wage deals to fill the other 10 roster spots. Which is entirely possibly, especially if we shed Browns 2 million.
We will be forced to put a lot of ELC or veteran minimum contracts next year, and it may be a low point for the team depth wise, especially defensively, but it is possible.
Empoleon8771
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Marleau almost definitely isn't waiving his NMC and the Leafs shouldn't be trading Kadri. I think you'd have a difficult time trading Zaitsev without taking any money back. I think you can find takers for Brown and Hyman pretty easily, but the other 3 aren't likely to be traded.
Spirit of 67
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Gardiner is not coming back. Cap is going up. Hainsey is not coming back.
Cap problems solved.
Cap problems solved.
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Yep.
Gardiner is a valuable asset so it will suck to see him walk for nothing but after watching Dermott progress over the last two seasons, I don't think anyone will miss him for too long.
Why ate you so over dramatic. In reality AM will probably want 11-12 marner 7-9, keep hyman and kadri and use elcs for rest. You maybee able to get rid of zaits but you need him for at least another year. Marleu you are probably stuck with. It's not so bad very manageable.I don't know how the Leafs are going to do it. Clearly according to HF these guys aren't even as good as their comparables but will be asking for 15M and 13M. Shame the Leafs were the only team to grab guys with only self interest. Lucky other fans that their players won't take them to the cleaners
Brock Radunske
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We should set up a Mail Chimp account and email this to all HFboard user's emails.
Spirit of 67
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Or maybe issue people a pen, paper and a calculator.
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Spirit of 67
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No.You must have a MUCH higher opinion of Hfboard posters than I do.
But my theory is always, do your part before complaining other don't.
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Both the Jets and Leafs will have the Cap crash on their heads next season. I believe both teams will sign their young core at the expense of the depth of their teams. Both teams will be punished for their great drafting as the cap will make them weaken their teams to hold onto their young core. I believe both of these team have a good enough young core to win SC's and the GM that can get their young core at the cheapest price will most likely win more SC then the other. Both teams will end up giving up team depth to hold on to their best players long term but that is the price you pay for having drafting success in todays NHL cap world.
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Orpik had one year left at 5.5 million, was traded to Colorado, bought out, and then signed in Washington for a 1 year 1 million contract with 500K of performance bonuses. If the Leafs could do something similar to Marleau it would completely solve their cap issues.
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I doubt they'd go that route. I think they value his leadership too much.
I wouldn't be shocked if he re-signed with the Leafs for something like $3mil x 2yrs if they haven't won the cup before his current deal is up. He wants a cup and I think he still contributes a lot....especially if he's making 3rd liner money.
Gardiner is one of two things. A strictly offensive defensemen who will get you 50 points and cost you 50 on the defensive side, Or what we see this season...... A mediocre defensemen trying to play more defence and losing out on 25 points from the offensive side.
At that point, how many mediocre defensemen in the league are there that put up 30 points a season, and how many are worth what Jake will ask as a UFA...
Im glad you understand that he's not coming back because certain leaf fans just don't get it.
It would be nice to have that space for sure.... But its not make or break. Im personally salivating at the year after when his cap hit is off the books. I don't expect him to be traded as I'm sure him and lou had a hand shake agreement of some sort that he wouldn't be traded or LTIR'd or something effed up.
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I agree that I doubt they do that because it's cap circumvention. I don't believe that Washington traded Orpik with the intention that they will re-sign him, but they probably did have it on the back of their mind that they could do it.
Brock Radunske
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Yeah I just don't see how it can work and on top of that, I don't think it would be a good use of cap space and I consider myself a Gardiner fan.
Ideally, He should try to sign with a team who has a defensively strong RHD. He'd probably look awesome in St.Louis next to Petro, where he can rack up his 50pts and will have someone to cover for the rest (which TO currently does not have)
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You must think the entire Leafs defence must stink then because Gardiner is currently 2nd on the Defence in GA/60 despite having the second most defensive zone start and facing borderline top pairing competition.
