Friedman: Leafs interested in Tyler Bertuzzi

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

It's possible but Mantha did that and now he's in Washington

Mantha was lazy and not living up to his contract, Bertuzzi works hard every shift and scores close to 50 points per season when healthy. big difference between Bertuzzi and Mantha.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

What prospect would it take , we don’t have a 1st and no roster players of value that are moveable

so its down to prospects ….

We have future 1sts

 

[StreetHawk]

Mantha was lazy and not living up to his contract, Bertuzzi works hard every shift and scores close to 50 points per season when healthy. big difference between Bertuzzi and Mantha.

That is from Detroit's POV. What is Bert's POV on the situation? Takes 2 sides to come to an agreement especically as the player approaches UFA. More leverage on the player side vs coming out of ELC.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Every team in the league should be interested in him

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Detroit is still in asset accumulation mode in the short-term. The best and possibly second best player on the next good Wings team hasn't been drafted yet. Now is not a great time to overpay for a player's prime years. Save that for the captain.

Get the pick/prospect and sign a free agent looking to rebuild value in his place.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I don't think they'd ask for Sandin

Yeah we would ask for Sandin, We're not moving Bertuzzi without one of Toronto's big prospects being involved. If Dubas wants Bertuzzi he's going to have to pay dearly.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Didn't realize he's already 26 and due a new contract, Bertuzzi doesn't really fit Detroit's timeline and should probably be traded. I doubt Toronto is the only team interested so I expect a good return.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

That is from Detroit's POV. What is Bert's POV on the situation? Takes 2 sides to come to an agreement especically as the player approaches UFA. More leverage on the player side vs coming out of ELC.

Bert has said numerous times that he loves playing in Detroit and wants to play his entire career there. He lives with his Uncle Todd there in the Detroit area so he know's the area well. There's noway Yzerman is giving him a one year deal. And Bertuzzi taking Detroit to salary arbitration makes no sense. After missing 47 games this past season. he'd only get a one year deal at his current $3,500,000 and i don't see Yzerman allowing that to happen.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Yeah we would ask for Sandin, We're not moving Bertuzzi without one of Toronto's big prospects being involved. If Dubas wants Bertuzzi he's going to have to pay dearly.

Which is fine but Sandin is a regular now so he's not likely the guy.

Now if you said Amirov that might be different because he's not making the team this year.

Baring injury Sandin is it is HIGHLY unlikely to be Sandin

 

[CupcakeSprinkles]

The Leafs have Dermott as a chip. I can see him being apart of any package bringing over Bertuzzi. I don't see Bertuzzi commanding a massive given contract situation.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Looking at the Mantha return I'm probably asking for Robertson or Sandin plus Toronto's '22 1st.

Honestly I'm not in love with either Robertson or Sandin, so I'd be more curious to hear what other teams would offer.

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

The Leafs have Dermott as a chip. I can see him being apart of any package bringing over Bertuzzi. I don't see Bertuzzi commanding a massive given contract situation.

Surely not a meaningful trade chip for a gritty 20g 20a winger in his prime.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Ball is completely in Bertuzzi's court. If he wants out, than Yzerman will likely be looking to trade him.

However, I expect him to sign a 2-3 year contract where he'll get an extra a bit more money to incentivize him to stay, which will give Detroit a bit more flexibility.

They went to an arbitrator last year, there could be some bad blood between them

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I don’t think we have the assets to make this happen unfortunately

They absolutely do, just because they traded a couple picks doesn't mean the cupboard is empty not a single prospect got traded

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Which is fine but Sandin is a regular now so he's not likely the guy.

Now if you said Amirov that might be different because he's not making the team this year.

Baring injury Sandin is it is HIGHLY unlikely to be Sandin

Realistically i could see Yzerman asking for Amirov+Dermott+Toronto's 2022 1st round pick. Gives us a young up and coming LW in Amirov along with a 2nd pairing LD in Dermott and a late 2022 1st round pick in a strong draft. That's minimum i see Yzerman taking.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Surely not a meaningful trade chip for a gritty 20g 20a winger in his prime.

Hard to tell on his prime to be honest. He just had back surgery and the gritty guys tend to fall apart by 30 years old, so it's a bit of a gamble.

Maybe the 22 1st or Amirov are the primary pieces.

I think TOR fans don't quite understand the value of having a player like Bertuzzi while DET fans need to understand he's not a young buck and had a big injury.

The 1st round pick is JT Miller return territory which is fair and a trade I believe Yzerman did make.

 

[ChiHawk21]

Torontos time is now. Bertuzzi seems like a great fit for what they need in the playoffs. As a blackhawks fan he reminds me of Shaw with a bit more skill. That is veryyy useful in the playoffs.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

They went to an arbitrator last year, there could be some bad blood between them

Going to salary arbitration means nothing, Case in point Tomas Tatar took Detroit to salary arbitration then signed for like 4 years @ $5,300,000 i believe then Holland dealt him to Vegas their 1st and 2nd and 3rd round picks. No hard feelings there.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Going to salary arbitration means nothing, Case in point Tomas Tatar took Detroit to salary arbitration then signed for like 4 years @ $5,400,000 i believe then Holland dealt him to Vegas their 1st and 2nd and 3rd round picks. No hard feelings there.

1 example doesnt make it mean nothing. But we will never know since that info is behind closed doors

 

[drw02]

Bertuzzi is 26 and a RFA who is a year out from UFA. He could opt for salary arbitration and then hit UFA in 2022 if he wants.

Really it's now Bertuzzi and Larkin left that are over 22 that would be a part of the Wing's future. Just a matter of how much longer it will take for that future to arrive. Maybe best to give himself the option of staying or going by not committing right now.

Larkin, Bertuzzi and Vrana, Hronek and possibly Fabbri but that's stretching it a little

 

[Web In Front]

Going to salary arbitration means nothing, Case in point Tomas Tatar took Detroit to salary arbitration then signed for like 4 years @ $5,300,000 i believe then Holland dealt him to Vegas their 1st and 2nd and 3rd round picks. No hard feelings there.

No hard feelings except that they traded him six months after the arbitration hearing.

Players that go through an actual arbitration hearing (not simply filing for arbitration but going through with the hearing) are almost always traded within a year. This is the case pretty much across the league.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Exactly the type of player we need.

 

[The Flying Octopus]

Unless Nylander or Marner were returning as part of a Bertuzzi package (Washington's 1st plus a prospect) the Leafs have nothing of any real value to the Wings.

Lousy prospect pool / No picks themselves / Older dmen who dont fit theWings timeline

 

[Roomba With a Bauer]

With Detroit's cap flexibility and contract status this year, they could likely put together a roster that could make the playoffs within a season or two. In that case you want a guy like Bertuzzi.

If Yzerman is seriously following this slow-burn multi-year rebuild plan, they are likely going to lose Bert anyway. No one is going to want to waste their prime years on a team that isn't going to try to win for 5 years.

 

[themelkman]

Gotta imagine it’s Sandin plus