Proposal: Leafs/Canucks

[M2Beezy]

If the Leafs add their 2019 1st Id do it

 

[firstemperor]

Makes no sense. We can't even fit in Suter's cap hit for free.

He might be an average #3C on a good team, with some retention. Just not ours, its idiotic cap management.

Brown/Grundstrom/Leivo all have years of control, for 1 year of control (Virtanen). It's a very lopsided trade, given Brown, alone, is already more productive at the NHL level.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Another day, another cj19 stinker...

 

[LeafSteel]

.......keep dreaming.

Pretty sure you started with the non-sensical post of expecting Matthews for Tanev. He threw the same non-sense back at you, and this is your response.

Don't dish it if you can't take it........

 

[hamzarocks]

If the Leafs add their 2019 1st Id do it

Nobody wants your bust and overpaid 3rd line center. Enjoy another season in the basement.

 

[Addison Rae]

Nobody wants your bust and overpaid 3rd line center. Enjoy another season in the basement.

Imagine not winning a playoff game in 14 years and still having this much attitude.

 

[rent free]

Imagine not winning a playoff game in 14 years and still having this much attitude.

they've won 8 playoff games in 14 years, which is equivalent to two playoff series. if only the won all 8 games in the same year though

 

[Mickey Marner]

So, the Leafs give up 3 of the 4 best assests? No thanks.

 

[RomanianLeafs]

Wtf do we need sutter for?? And lol at including Grundstrom for him or virtanen.. Guy is going to be on Matthews line after Marleau retires wtf needs Virtanen

 

[M2Beezy]

Nobody wants your bust and overpaid 3rd line center. Enjoy another season in the basement.

Dam Im jealous of your recent playoff success as the series victories are WAY more than my Canucks team has had! RAAAAAGEEEE

 

[eviohh26]

This sucks both ways. People really need to think out their proposals.

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

Brown > Sutter (and signed for less)
Grundstrom >/= Virtanen

Makes no sense from the Leafs POV unless they were really high on Virtanen, but nobody should be high on him at this point.

I'd do the OP as a Canucks fan, and I have nothing but the highest expectations from Virtanen.

As for the excitement surround Grundstrom, yes he could be a top six player, but were we not saying the same thing about Kapanen and even Gauthier not too long ago? Not to rag on someone I hope pans out, but being your top prospect doesn't guarantee anything, we know that in Vancouver all too well.

Nobody ever said Gauthier would be anything more than a 3C and that quickly changed into a 4C maybe.

Kapanen is stuck behind Marner and Nylander. He won't really ever get to prove himself a top six winger until he's moved elsewhere or significant injuries occur. He's still pretty much only been deployed as a bottom six winger that PKs.

 

[Cogburn]

Kapanen could still very well end up a top 6 winger in the future. Regarding the Goat, he was viewed by most to have a ceiling of 3rd line C but would likely settle in as 4th line C. I still expect him to carve out a career as a 4th line NHLer.

Grundstrom has the sandpaper in his game that the Leafs lack and that is one of the reasons he is viewed as a top prospect in the system. Most of us expect him to be a player but hard to gauge right now if that’s top 6 or bottom 6.

I don't think any Leaf fan thought GOAT would be a top 6 center.. Maybe the year after the draft talking about his absolute MAX ceiling. Most of us know he is a 4th line C for years now. We all thought he would be a good 3rd line C.

Kapanen is not a bust so not sure what you are saying? He is a top 6 winger just on the deepest RW in the league. Leafs are loaded at forward man I don't know why people keep thinking they are bad. There are some really good players in the league who couldn't crack our top 6.

I didn't want to make it seem like I was unfairly ragging on either comparison, I'm just not one to count chickens before they hatch. Grit is fantastic, that's how we think of Virtanen as well, although he is a little further along then Kap or Goat, and I do value Grundstrom and his potential and skillset, but I heard from some Leafs fans that Gauthier could or would be a top six center, and while Kap has a long way to go before he stops developing, counting him as a top six RW, depth or no, hasn't been proven.

It's the same thing with a certain team and Gagner and Cogliano where a small, and probably disproportionately vocal sect of fans of a team valued them as being their absolute best case scenario ceiling, then when reality struck, they changed the narrative. We did it with Hodgson too (we wrecked his projected development, our bad) and are doing it with Virtanen.

 

[canuckslover10]

Honestly if the canucks were in a tight cap situation i would do it but i rather just roll the dice on virtanen as he has the highest ceiling out of everyone in the trade plus sutter is a very good 3c he is just overpaid by 500k

 

[Brock Radunske]

Imagine not winning a playoff game in 14 years and still having this much attitude.

Your 'burn' doesn't even make sense. I'm assuming you mean series, right?
But by all means, be smug about your 3 playoff games won in the last 7 seasons

 

[JayKnowsHockey]

Tanev for Matthews is the only thing I'd do personally.

Im assuming this is a joke?

 

[HolyCrap]

What a dumb proposal. Lock the thread. Ignore the OP.

 

[CherryToke]

I would actually rather hang on to Virtanen to see what he can do this year. He looked decent at the end of last season. It would be silly to give up on him now.

 

[Boutette]

A Leafs/Canucks proposal thread that doesn't involve Tanev?!?!?!?!?

And yet its somehow worse for the Leafs than any Tanev offer I've seen yet

 

[Icebreakers]

Your 'burn' doesn't even make sense. I'm assuming you mean series, right?
But by all means, be smug about your 3 playoff games won in the last 7 seasons

Same amount of series the Leafs have won .. its like youre bragging about dick size as a 12 year old going through puberty. Both losers.

 

[Boutette]

This trade proposal is kind of like a poor man's version of trading Tavares+Marner+Matthews for JvR+Bozak.

 

[Cotton]

Same amount of series the Leafs have won .. its like youre bragging about dick size as a 12 year old going through puberty. Both losers.

Except he isnt bragging and it was a Canucks fan who brought up the playoffs.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Could be about the worse trade proposal in a while. Sutter is 4.3m 4th line centre on the Leafs. Virtanen is 5th line RWer. Brown is NHL winger and Grundstrom looks like a NHLer right now.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Don't want Sutter, don't want Virtanen.

Like Brown, Grundstrom is a solid prospect we can likely fill in for cheap in a year or so. I'm high on leivo

So very very easy pass?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

No thanks. Virtanen will have a breakout year this year. I’d happily do something around Sutter retained for Grundstrom though. Not sure why Toronto needs Sutter tho...