Post-Game Talk: Leafs Beat Flames 4-2

[56 Years No Cup]

prepare to be disappointed when hes healthy my friend.

We'll all be disappointed if he's back in the net...

 

[HC7]

You're allowed to criticize him for the shitty goals while still acknowledging he played well.

 

[Caroline Says ll]

That oh so important 3rd line was on a 50 point pace when hyman was on it. Have to pick your poison. Either hyman plays with matthews and marner and the 3rd suffers or you try and find a replacement for hyman on the top line, otherwise they suffer. The ladder is easier said than done.

Not to mention this expected point production on a third line does not exist in the NHL. It is mythical, an imagined unrealistic expectation that is silly and absurd.

The Leafs third line production is right in line , if not better then Carolina, Florida, Washington, Boston, Colorado, etc. How many points is honestly expected? Add to that that our second line is producing at a higher rate than many first lines.

Our third line as it is currently assembled is outplaying the lines they are facing. We have two players who excell at zone exits and entries in Mik and Engvall. They also have great possession numbers. All things point to that when they are on the ice the puck leaves and/or stays out of our zone. That is what you want in a third line. They don't capitalize on all of their chances - but that is a factor with all bottom rosters. Nothing needs to be fixed.

 

[Fogelhund]

Glad I did not rip Hutch after the 2nd Flames goal and have to eat crow. Ended up the first star.

It was a weak goal for sure, but he more than redeemed himself the rest of the way.

 

[Warden of the North]

I hate to say it, but I think grandpa Joe is done. His pass is still top notch, but he legs are many steps behind and it's causing a lot of problems for him.

He was never brought here for the regular season.

Reserve judgement for when it matters

 

[Bedards Dad]

He was never brought here for the regular season.

Reserve judgement for when it matters

I don't think his legs will magically come back. Hope I'm wrong

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Pleasantly surprised they won last night considering Hutch let's sweep this 2 game set

 

[Sypher04]

I pretty well never will rip on Hutchinson tbh. To start the year, he was our 4th string goalie behind Andersen, Campbell and Dell. Fact of the matter is that he was never meant to play, let alone start this many games, and given the nightmare situation our goaltending has been injury wise, Hutchinson has performed well above expectations. And yeah, he's gonna allow some questionable goals because that's where he's at as a goalie and people need to understand that. I am, rightfully so, much harder on Andersen because the role, the pay and the expectation that accompanies it is much greater and Freddy, much as I like the guy, has been mediocre for probably a year and half now

 

[mix1home]

Pleasent surprise to wake up to. Went to bed a touch early, score 2-1.

Well, I tuned in at exactly that point. And that worked. No need to thank. We are all in it together.

 

[Pi]

Bottom 6 paces:

Spezza 44
Thornton 38
Kerfoot 35
Simmonds 25
Mikheyev 24
Engvall 20

Last year TBay bottom 6:

Coleman 40
Gourde 35
Goodrow 31
Maroon 29
Paquette 24
Joseph 16 / Stephens 13

Not sure what people expect from a bottom 6.

If our top 5/6 players show up, that's all we need. There is a reason why those players are in the bottom six making near league min. They can't be expected to show up consistently on the scoresheet. What they add in terms of goals is just a bonus. You just want dependable minutes from them.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Lol no.

Says the guy who bashes Andersen even after he gives up only one goal in an easy win.
Says the guy who bashes Andersen even when he hasn't played in weeks.

 

[zeke]

Says the guy who bashes Andersen even after he gives up only one goal in an easy win.
Says the guy who bashes Andersen even when he hasn't played in weeks.

Calling out bad play isn't bashing.

 

[Joey Hoser]

I don't think his legs will magically come back. Hope I'm wrong

Wouldn't take magic. He's 41 years old. Logical thing to do, would be to take it easy for the regular season, then throw everything he's got left at one last cup run.

 

[BudForLife]

We played like crap,
Expecting trap,
But Matthews scored on the tap.

You're a poet
And you know it
Made me laugh a little bit

 

[Pi]

Calling out bad play isn't bashing.

Yeah, Andersen is cooked. If Keefe wants to win in the playoffs, he needs to let go of that 200 pound anchor that is Andersen.

I thank him for his play over the past couple years but it's become evident that he cannot win close games, he likes facing 35-40 shots and seeing constant action and this defense basically allows their goalie to chill for long stretches of the game and needs them to be sharp on the odd mistake or two they make. He can't handle that kind of game.

Campbell's injury needs to be managed and I wouldn't start Hutch in the playoffs so the only real option is to either trust Campbell and hope he doesn't get injured or get another goalie by trading Andersen's cap hit. Ullmark would be a great addition.

 

[Mikeyg]

prepare to be disappointed when hes healthy my friend.

Oh hes disappointed me plenty while healthy already!!!! lmao

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Fell asleep during the 2nd. Nothing better to start off the week though than waking up to a win!

 

[Gallagbi]

Wouldn't take magic. He's 41 years old. Logical thing to do, would be to take it easy for the regular season, then throw everything he's got left at one last cup run.

Feels like we'd at least see some glimpses every now and then if this was the case.

Right now he looks like he's just trying to survive every shift. He's so far behind the play and struggling to find any time a space

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Feels great man. Huge 2 points. Felt like team played half a period. Guess that's enough to beat the Flames.

Hutch good effort. JT line was great.

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Wow awesome gif whoever made that. Can it be used as an avatar?

 

[Joey Hoser]

Feels like we'd at least see some glimpses every now and then if this was the case.

Right now he looks like he's just trying to survive every shift. He's so far behind the play and struggling to find any time a space

Well to be fair he did play 10-12 really good games to start the year. If he can do that again, that'd be awesome.

 

[Clark4Ever]

Hutch was very good when Calgary was pressing early on and gave us a chance to get our offense going.

It was great to see Galchenyuk finally get rewarded for all his hard work.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

He was never brought here for the regular season.

Reserve judgement for when it matters

Problem is that he's not being afforded load management (I'd imagine his choice as well) and it seems really short-sighted. If they were to do every other game or something, he'd be a good weapon in tight playoff hockey where so much action takes place along the boards, but this Joe who is 7 steps behind the play unless the puck is deep in the Ozone is not an effective player. He seems way behind on the PP, even, which is where I thought he'd thrive at the beginning of the year

 

[Gary Nylund]

Calling out bad play isn't bashing.

Bashing him after a good game in an easy win on the other hand ...

Wouldn't take magic. He's 41 years old. Logical thing to do, would be to take it easy for the regular season, then throw everything he's got left at one last cup run.

I wish I could believe, I dunno though.

 

[zeke]

Bashing him after a good game in an easy win on the other hand ...



I wish I could believe, I dunno though.

There was no bash.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Big win to get up 6 points in the division.

Would be nice to see the Leafs show up tonight and take over the game. The Flames are running out of chances to show their a playoff team. Another win tonight, especially in regulation, could be the nail in the coffin for the Flames as sellers at the deadline.

Of course Calgary's remaining 5 games against Montreal will be huge so they may be holding out for that.

Opportunity for the Leafs to show us that they're a good team that can put teams away.