LD Philip Broberg - Skellefteå AIK, SHL (2019, 8th, EDM)

[Tkachuckycheese]

I think they'll have similar career trajectories. Similar defences for bad players. Similar arguments. etc etc.

Why are you so salty towards Broberg? Just out of the blue you shit on a player you have no clue about or know how his career is going to pan out. Reading stats doesn't make you know how a player will develop.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

The Birth of a Ceci: The Story of Philip Broberg's NHL Career

Calling it right now. Watching Oilers fans plug their ears and cover their eyes about this guy for the next 5 years is going to be an absolute treat for everyone else.

You're a clown. He is a top 10 pick getting NHL experience in his D+1 year

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Why are you comparing Ceci to Broberg? or am I missing something here?

Because he is a one of those leaf fans who'd rather attack players from other teams than simply support his own

Also pretty sad that he changed his avatar to try and fool people into thinking he is a knights fans even when he is a well known leafs homer

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Was pretty poor last night

He played surprisingly well. Especially after the first that was more than I was expecting, in playtime and preformance

 

[ChaoticOrange]

What? He plays nothing like Sekera.

Seriously, calling Broberg Sekera 2.0 is like calling Dach Derek Roy 2.0. The guys couldn't be more different stylistically.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Because he is a one of those leaf fans who'd rather attack players from other teams than simply support his own

Also pretty sad that he changed his avatar to try and fool people into thinking he is a knights fans even when he is a well known leafs homer

There's a section of nearly every fanbase that just doesn't want anyone else to have anything nice so they lash out. There are a lot of Leaf fans so even if 1% of them suck, that's a lot of sucky people.

 

[Brobust]

Because he is a one of those leaf fans who'd rather attack players from other teams than simply support his own

Also pretty sad that he changed his avatar to try and fool people into thinking he is a knights fans even when he is a well known leafs homer

Um, I'm not a leafs fan.

In fact, I called them a soul crushing experience for their fans on cbj vs tor thread. That team's a joke.

 

[Brobust]

Because he is a one of those leaf fans who'd rather attack players from other teams than simply support his own

Also pretty sad that he changed his avatar to try and fool people into thinking he is a knights fans even when he is a well known leafs homer

By the way, it's an utterly disgusting tactic to go through posts and dismiss opinions based on fandom. Just so pathetic.

 

[ToDavid]

Where can you find xGF stats for a single game? I'll have to bookmark that.

Natural Stat Trick is the only one I'm aware of doing these games without a subscription (moneypuck isn't doing exhibition games). FYI, it looks like their filters are broken at the moment so if you're looking for yesterday's games you need to go to a team's "Pre-Season" games even though they do have an "RTP Exhibition" filter (which doesn't seem to do anything right now).

 

[KevinRedkey]

I think they'll have similar career trajectories. Similar defences for bad players. Similar arguments. etc etc.

Ceci was nowhere near the skater Broberg is though. I dont really see the comparison an I'm a fan of both teams.

I was admittedly a fan if Ceci as a prospect, an he never panned out... but if he could skate like Broberg things may have been different.

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[Draiskull]

By the way, it's an utterly disgusting tactic to go through posts and dismiss opinions based on fandom. Just so pathetic.

Its not a bad tactic. Someone having to go through your previous posts suggest you have posted something that is either outlandish or there is a hidden agenda.
No one goes through previous posts to figure out 'fandom' of posters who have logical opinions.

Broberg being comparable to Ceci is a head scratcher. They have very little in common.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

By the way, it's an utterly disgusting tactic to go through posts and dismiss opinions based on fandom. Just so pathetic.

I'm the pathetic one when you're in a thread saying 19 year old top 10 pick who has had an excellent training camp, will turn out to be Ceci? There is absolutely 0 basis for that claim.

 

[DreamTheatre]

As an Oiler fan, I was happy to see Broberg play last night, but definitely needs a lot of work moving forward imo.

 

[PWJunior]

Ceci was nowhere near the skater Broberg is though. I dont really see the comparison an I'm a fan of both teams.

I was admittedly a fan if Ceci as a prospect, an he never panned out... but if he could skate like Broberg things may have been different.

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The Ceci comparison makes no sense at all. Actually the bests comps for me are already on the Oilers in Nurse and Klefbom, slanted more towards Nurse. Broberg has great size and great mobility, but has questionable hockey instincts and offensive upside.

I wasn't a fan of the pick so high considering the Oilers already have Klefbom and Nurse who bring very similar skillsets, seemed pretty redundant to me. They could have used a forward more like Zegras and I've never been a fan of taking LHD's with top picks in general unless they are of the super stud variety like Dahlin, Heiskanen, Hedman.

The size and skating definitely stand out and make Broberg a flashy prospect, but he's going need time and patience. He is going to need a lot of reps, AHL time after another year in the SHL is probably best. He should be a really good puck transporter like Nick Leddy, but it remains to be seen whether other parts of his game will stand out in the future.

I don't see a top pairing guy in him, but a solid #3D as his ceiling. He doesn't look like he'll ever be QB'ing the #1PP, but should log good ES minutes and be able to contribute on the PK. Broberg should be around 20 minute average TOI with his potential profile.

 

[snipes]

As an Oiler fan, I was happy to see Broberg play last night, but definitely needs a lot of work moving forward imo.

Rewatching the game in the back ground this morning a little closer. That was a very physical game for Broberg to step into. His skating looked good (it’s near the end of the second period on the rewind) but definitely a little shaky in some of his position and decision making which is to be expected when the bullets are live and this is the most physical rivalry in hockey right now bar none.

Welcome to the NHL kid. D is a tough position to break into in the NHL and D men take a long time to develop compared to forwards generally speaking.

I highly doubt he’ll be in the opening lineup against the Hawks but he’s showed well all camp, this is great experience just being in an NHL environment.

Jones will be healthy for the opening night, he was only in tonight because Jones wasn’t playing.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

The Ceci comparison makes no sense at all. Actually the bests comps for me are already on the Oilers in Nurse and Klefbom, slanted more towards Nurse. Broberg has great size and great mobility, but has questionable hockey instincts and offensive upside.

I wasn't a fan of the pick so high considering the Oilers already have Klefbom and Nurse who bring very similar skillsets, seemed pretty redundant to me. They could have used a forward more like Zegras and I've never been a fan of taking LHD's with top picks in general unless they are of the super stud variety like Dahlin, Heiskanen, Hedman.

The size and skating definitely stand out and make Broberg a flashy prospect, but he's going need time and patience. He is going to need a lot of reps, AHL time after another year in the SHL is probably best. He should be a really good puck transporter like Nick Leddy, but it remains to be seen whether other parts of his game will stand out in the future.

I don't see a top pairing guy in him, but a solid #3D as his ceiling. He doesn't look like he'll ever be QB'ing the #1PP, but should log good ES minutes and be able to contribute on the PK. Broberg should be around 20 minute average TOI with his potential profile.

That's how most of us feel about him too.

I think a lot of people misunderstand our viewpoints on Broberg. Many of us didn't like the pick and don't think it made any sense given the makeup of our team and prospect pool, but that doesn't mean we don't like the prospect or think he has upside.

A solid #3 is what Nurse is today, and I think it's a pretty good comparable for Broberg.

 

[PWJunior]

That's how most of us feel about him too.

I think a lot of people misunderstand our viewpoints on Broberg. Many of us didn't like the pick and don't think it made any sense given the makeup of our team and prospect pool, but that doesn't mean we don't like the prospect or think he has upside.

A solid #3 is what Nurse is today, and I think it's a pretty good comparable for Broberg.

Holy shit, you and I actually agree on something.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Holy shit, you and I actually agree on something.

I must be mellowing in my late 30's.

 

[McNurse]

To be fair, he did not look great in the first. But in the other two periods he did fine for playing his first NHL game* and first game on a smaller rink. He made a few nice breakout passes, put himself out to stop an easy goal and did well against a strong forecheck a few times. He wasn’t impressive, but he did absolutely fine

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Rewatching the game in the back ground this morning a little closer. That was a very physical game for Broberg to step into. His skating looked good (it’s near the end of the second period on the rewind) but definitely a little shaky in some of his position and decision making which is to be expected when the bullets are live and this is the most physical rivalry in hockey right now bar none.

Welcome to the NHL kid. D is a tough position to break into in the NHL and D men take a long time to develop compared to forwards generally speaking.

I highly doubt he’ll be in the opening lineup against the Hawks but he’s showed well all camp, this is great experience just being in an NHL environment.

Jones will be healthy for the opening night, he was only in tonight because Jones wasn’t playing.

The biggest benefit from this game, is he actually gets to see what a real NHL game is like, that wasn't just a normal exhibition game where the lesser players shine, that was both teams starting lineups for the most part, going full tilt for most of the game.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

The Ceci comparison makes no sense at all. Actually the bests comps for me are already on the Oilers in Nurse and Klefbom, slanted more towards Nurse. Broberg has great size and great mobility, but has questionable hockey instincts and offensive upside.

I wasn't a fan of the pick so high considering the Oilers already have Klefbom and Nurse who bring very similar skillsets, seemed pretty redundant to me. They could have used a forward more like Zegras and I've never been a fan of taking LHD's with top picks in general unless they are of the super stud variety like Dahlin, Heiskanen, Hedman.

The size and skating definitely stand out and make Broberg a flashy prospect, but he's going need time and patience. He is going to need a lot of reps, AHL time after another year in the SHL is probably best. He should be a really good puck transporter like Nick Leddy, but it remains to be seen whether other parts of his game will stand out in the future.

I don't see a top pairing guy in him, but a solid #3D as his ceiling. He doesn't look like he'll ever be QB'ing the #1PP, but should log good ES minutes and be able to contribute on the PK. Broberg should be around 20 minute average TOI with his potential profile.

Good post, and if he becomes a solid #3 at pick 8, that is still a win, hes also a much better skater than Nurse.

Only time will tell what he turns into I guess, I would of prefered zegras with the pick also.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Good post, and if he becomes a solid #3 at pick 8, that is still a win, hes also a much better skater than Nurse.

Only time will tell what he turns into I guess, I would of prefered zegras with the pick also.

Disagree with the bolded - Broberg's an excellent skater, but Nurse is a very strong skater in his own right. It's arguably the thing he does best.

 

[snipes]

Disagree with the bolded - Broberg's an excellent skater, but Nurse is a very strong skater in his own right. It's arguably the thing he does best.

Me as well, Nurse is a fantastic skater that is definitely his best quality.

Broberg might be slightly ahead as his skating is more on a young Jay Bouwmeester level but Nurse isn’t that far behind in terms of skating at the same age.

 

[Dr Salt]

Pretty poor singular exhibition game, 1 xGF%, didn't pass the eye test. But it was to be expected, he's not near ready. Needs to play DY+2 in Sweden.

 

[LeafChief]

Loved seeing him get into the exhibition game the other night. Is there a chance he plays playoff games?