Prospect Info: LD Olli Juolevi - London Knights - 5th Overall 2016

[Bankerguy]

I, for one, am 100% okay with that as a #5 pick if that's what he can achieve with our jersey on.

I agree 100%. A very valuable piece indeed. Teams need guys like that to win.

 

[Wildcarder]

If his career ends up being very similar to Hamhuis' are we happy with that as a 5OA pick?

How much does he project to be like Hamhuis? Maybe a little bit more of an offensive ceiling?

 

[M2Beezy]

If his career ends up being very similar to Hamhuis' are we happy with that as a 5OA pick?

How much does he project to be like Hamhuis? Maybe a little bit more of an offensive ceiling?

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

 

[DL44]

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

It's kinda funny... Hamhuis does lead his draft class in games played..

Here's a list of the top D selected:

Dan Hamhuis 872 gms
Marek Zidlicky 836 gms
Fedor Tyutin 803 gms
Christian Ehrhoff 789 gms
Dennis Seidenberg 758 gms
Johnny Oduya 746 gms
Tim Gleason 727 gms
Kevin Bieksa 668 gms
Mike Komisarek 551 gms


ALL players from 2001 over 500 games..

Dan Hamhuis D 872 gms
Jason Spezza C 843 gms
Tomas Plekanec C 843 gms
Jay McClement C 841 gms
Marek Zidlicky D 836 gms
Jason Pominville R 827 gms
Ales Hemsky R 823 gms
Jussi Jokinen L 822 gms
Patrick Sharp L 821 gms
Ilya Kovalchuk L 816 gms
Fedor Tyutin D 803 gms
Christian Ehrhoff D 789 gms
Mike Cammalleri L 779 gms
R.J. Umberger L 779 gms
Brooks Laich C 764 gms
Mikko Koivu C 763 gms
Dennis Seidenberg D 758 gms
Johnny Oduya D 746 gms
Derek Roy C 738 gms
Tuomo Ruutu R 735 gms
Stephen Weiss C 732 gms
Tim Gleason D 727 gms
Chris Thorburn R 686 gms
Jordin Tootoo R 673 gms
Kevin Bieksa D 668 gms
Marcel Goc C 636 gms
Chuck Kobasew R 601 gms
Mike Komisarek D 551 gms
Stephane Veilleux L 506 gms
David Moss R 501 gms

 

[Zaddy91]

It's kinda funny... Hamhuis does lead his draft class in games played..

Here's a list of the top D selected:

Dan Hamhuis 872 gms
Marek Zidlicky 836 gms
Fedor Tyutin 803 gms
Christian Ehrhoff 789 gms
Dennis Seidenberg 758 gms
Johnny Oduya 746 gms
Tim Gleason 727 gms
Kevin Bieksa 668 gms
Mike Komisarek 551 gms


ALL players from 2001 over 500 games..

Dan Hamhuis D 872 gms
Jason Spezza C 843 gms
Tomas Plekanec C 843 gms
Jay McClement C 841 gms
Marek Zidlicky D 836 gms
Jason Pominville R 827 gms
Ales Hemsky R 823 gms
Jussi Jokinen L 822 gms
Patrick Sharp L 821 gms
Ilya Kovalchuk L 816 gms
Fedor Tyutin D 803 gms
Christian Ehrhoff D 789 gms
Mike Cammalleri L 779 gms
R.J. Umberger L 779 gms
Brooks Laich C 764 gms
Mikko Koivu C 763 gms
Dennis Seidenberg D 758 gms
Johnny Oduya D 746 gms
Derek Roy C 738 gms
Tuomo Ruutu R 735 gms
Stephen Weiss C 732 gms
Tim Gleason D 727 gms
Chris Thorburn R 686 gms
Jordin Tootoo R 673 gms
Kevin Bieksa D 668 gms
Marcel Goc C 636 gms
Chuck Kobasew R 601 gms
Mike Komisarek D 551 gms
Stephane Veilleux L 506 gms
David Moss R 501 gms

So if we don't draft a Keith or Subban its a failure of a pick, makes sense for this fanbase.

Personally I would take him over hamhuis today

 

[The Stig]

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

Lol calm down. No we wont.

 

[Pip]

Lol calm down. No we wont.

We might, but we won't know either way for at least a few years. Juolevi looks promising though and if he turns out to be Hamhuis I'd be very happy with that.

 

[Oliewud]

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

Have you watched Tkachuk at all during the tourny? He looks like crap lmao

 

[VanJack]

If his career ends up being very similar to Hamhuis' are we happy with that as a 5OA pick?

How much does he project to be like Hamhuis? Maybe a little bit more of an offensive ceiling?

Juolevi looks the kind of guy who could play in the league for 15 years....and if his career lands him somewhere between Oliver Ekman Larsson and Christian Erhoff, I'd be happy.

 

[The Stig]

We might, but we won't know either way for at least a few years. Juolevi looks promising though and if he turns out to be Hamhuis I'd be very happy with that.

Maybe. But like you said, Juolevi looks promising. Its not like we missed out on a pick in that area. We still got a damn good player. And man we needed a D to build around. I think for at 5, he was the right pick.

 

[me2]

Have you watched Tkachuk at all during the tourny? He looks like crap lmao

He was better in the earlier games. A lot of tired kids played like crap in that last game.

 

[Oliewud]

It's obvious his stats were heavily boosted by marner and dvorak. We will NOT regret this decision. Glorified grinder.

 

[WhiteCurse]

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

Well isnt this a 180 from a month ago

 

[DL44]

It's obvious his stats were heavily boosted by marner and dvorak. We will NOT regret this decision. Glorified grinder.

I'm REALLY curious to see what numbers he puts up this season without them.

 

[WonderTwinsUnite]

I'm REALLY curious to see what numbers he puts up this season without them.

Funnily enough, the same can be said for Juloevi. It's going to be interesting, that's for sure.

 

[Siludin]

Funnily enough, the same can be said for Juloevi. It's going to be interesting, that's for sure.

If Juolevi puts up identical point production and +/-, and Tkachuk only scores 90 points, would that be considered a weighted increase in production for Juolevi?

 

[me2]

Funnily enough, the same can be said for Juloevi. It's going to be interesting, that's for sure.

I'd want to see joulevi push through ppg, start driving the offense. He's only 18 this year coming up so taking such a jump would be reasonable.

 

[farshi]

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

You could make the argument hes in the top 5 from his own draft...

Kovalchuk
Spezza
Koivu
Sharp
Hamhuis
(these arent necessarily in order)

are IMO the top 5 from the 2001 draft...

 

[embee]

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

Go look at the 2001 entry draft, the year Hamhuis was selected.

There are barely 5 players still in league, let alone better than Hamhuis.

If Juolevi becomes the next Hamhuis that is a resoundingly successful pick.

Hamhuis has played the most games and has the 18th most points out of everyone in that draft year. 289 players.

 

[Street Hawk]

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

Defensemen and centers are more valuable than wingers.

If Columbus didn't think that, they would have taken JP at #3 over dubois.

Barring the winger being a high end guy like Laine or JP, you normally take the D ahead.

Is tkachuk going to be a pain to play against like a kesler or Perry? Yes.

But, this team needed a big minute defenseman. What will separate OJ from being a top level guy is his offense. He will be counted on more this year on London to help the offense since Dvorak graduates to the pros and possibly marner who is too good for the ohl sticks in the NHL. See if he can develop that part of his fame further.

I see OJ as a better hamhuis. Thinking more in terms of Vlasic in SJ if he doesn't pick up the offense.

Smart player,so not complaining there. Canucks are too thin in the back end to ignore restocking the position.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Major disappointment. Hamhuis is not the 5th best of any draft. Not even close.

Juol should of gone 6 AFTER Tkachuck. Well be feeling this for over a decade

I'm glad to heard this from you.
Now we don't have to worry about Juolevi not progressing.

 

[VanJack]

If Juolevi puts up identical point production and +/-, and Tkachuk only scores 90 points, would that be considered a weighted increase in production for Juolevi?

Difference here is that Juolevi put in a similarly dominating performance the World Junior Championships as one of youngest d-men in the history of the tournament...apparently the best d-man on the ice most games....According to Jimbo it was his performance at the WJC which convinced them to draft him, rather than what he did with the Knights.

 

[Ho Borvat]

Have you watched Tkachuk at all during the tourny? He looks like crap lmao

Im not really on either side of the Tkachuk/Juolevi debate.

But using this young stars tournament as a way to say "we should have drafted player X over player Y" is an extremely weak argument.

 

[me2]

We should have drafted a bruiser, soft D are useless. Joulevi won't punish anyone, nobody going to look up when he's around.

 

[Oliewud]

Im not really on either side of the Tkachuk/Juolevi debate.

But using this young stars tournament as a way to say "we should have drafted player X over player Y" is an extremely weak argument.

For sure. Looking forward to the pre-season.