LD Jarred Tinordi (2010, 22nd overall, Montreal)

[LeMAD]

Hmm, I havent read any reports that say his defensive game is terrific. All I hear about is his "nastiness" and "heavy hitting".

Good skating for his size is another way of saying average skating ability. He is certainly not fleet of foot by any means.

As for his character, yes, he seems to be a great kid. Comes from a great family (I know his brother Matt, and he is a great person in his own right), but ultimately, I am not sure if that can make up for everything that his game lacks.

Seems like a poor man's Derian Hatcher to me.

So you've never seen him play right?

There are some knowledgeable people in here, but sadly they are hard to find, since their comments get lost in a sea of 15 yo kids' nonsense.

 

[ruski17]

I'm 6'0.

That makes 4

I'm 5"11 1/5... Damn!

 

[Colezuki]

I'm 5"11 1/5... Damn!

dont feel bad im 5'9 209/1456

 

[DJB]

Tinordi handles the puck better then Komisarek does and the Hatcher comparison is a pretty good one.

He doesn't goon it up as much as Komi and Hatcher did though...

Still a solid pick by the Habs...

 

[Random Forest]

So you've never seen him play right?

There are some knowledgeable people in here, but sadly they are hard to find, since their comments get lost in a sea of 15 yo kids' nonsense.

Actually I have played with Jarred when he lived in Maryland and played for the Nats. And I continue to follow his progression to this day.

Dont automatically assume things. I just dont see NHL potential in this kid. Sorry I dont think that your favorite team made a good selection. You cant please everybody, but you dont have to make assumptions based on nothing

 

[Captain Mountain]

Actually I have played with Jarred when he lived in Maryland and played for the Nats. And I continue to follow his progression to this day.

Dont automatically assume things. I just dont see NHL potential in this kid. Sorry I dont think that your favorite team made a good selection. You cant please everybody, but you dont have to make assumptions based on nothing

Everyone is entitled to there opinions, and it is a fair analysis. Personally, what I've seen of him is that he is very raw in many aspects of his game, but he seems to have the bloodlines to understand what it takes to make the NHL and the drive to improve on the weaker aspect of his game (that is of course what I gathered from his interviews, I may be wrong). He is years away, but I ultimately think he'll come to the NHL and be a solid, but not first pairing, defencemen.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

No, it just makes it less believable, however 6'4 1/2 in Finland is about 6'1 1/2 by North American standards, so we will just exclude you shorty.

I'm 6'4.5 in NA, happy?

 

[LyricalLyricist]

What would be his HF rating !?

something like 7.0 B or 7.5 C !?

7.0C IMO. Too far to put a B and 7.5 is too high IMO. 7.0 is more realistic.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Actually I have played with Jarred when he lived in Maryland and played for the Nats. And I continue to follow his progression to this day.

Dont automatically assume things. I just dont see NHL potential in this kid. Sorry I dont think that your favorite team made a good selection. You cant please everybody, but you dont have to make assumptions based on nothing

I don't see stardom in him, but his size, passing, and skating ability screams 15 year top four d-man. Nothing fancy, but someone you can rely on at the NHL to do a job and do it without much negative pub on the ice.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I don't see stardom in him, but his size, passing, and skating ability screams 15 year top four d-man. Nothing fancy, but someone you can rely on at the NHL to do a job and do it without much negative pub on the ice.

and that's precisely what habs need..with a bunch of smaller puck movers like markov, subban, bennett, carle, etc

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Funny, most professional scouting reports I've read said his skating is impressive for a guy his size, and his defensiveness is PRO caliber. As for his offensiveness, yeah it's not great...

I'm perfectly fine taking him 22nd and losing a 2nd, sometimes you gotta go for quality over quantity, and this kid seems to have a lot of motivation to get better/stronger, and a great character. Sometimes that's what makes the difference between good players and great players.

His skating is not very good. Purely average.

 

[le_sean]

His skating is not very good. Purely average.

It is above average for a guy his size. He's certainly faster than Hal Gill and is only an inch smaller, I'm sure he can make it work. Heck, he probably has comparable speed and size to Pronger (if he fills out), and we know that Pronger is no slouch defensively despite his lack of foot speed.

 

[Random Forest]

I don't see stardom in him, but his size, passing, and skating ability screams 15 year top four d-man. Nothing fancy, but someone you can rely on at the NHL to do a job and do it without much negative pub on the ice.

His skill set is that of someone who can be very reliable and have a long and successful career (ie, Jason Smith), but when you are talking about defenseman with minimal offensive upside without good hands or good skating, it is a very fine line between career NHL top four and career minor leaguer. I think he falls on the wrong side of that line. I'm definitely not sold on his skating and I think that will be his downfall.

But maybe he proves me wrong, I dont know!

 

[Habitantpeasoup]

What Scouts Say

"He skates very well for a big guy. He has an excellent shot from the point. He's a pretty smart player. The head's there, the hands are there, the shot's there, the skating ability is there. He's got a real, real cannon for a shot."
- Jack Barzee, NHL Central Scouting

"Tinordi is a chip off the old block. His father, Mark Tinordi, was once a physical, defensive defenseman in the NHL who punished the opposition and the younger Tinordi plays the exact same way. He not only mirrors his father's game, but also his size as he stands a firm 6'6" and weighs 205 pounds. The most physically ready of the USA NHL draft eligible prospects, Tinordi completes the package with a mean streak and strong mobility."
McKeen's 2010 NHL Draft Guide

"Massive stay-at-home rearguard with excellent character, bloodlines, and leadership. Dependable, shutdown defender always thinks defense first and his crease coverage is among the best of this class - colossal frame and nasty disposition form an impenetrable barrier between opponents and his goalie. Readily protects teammates and will drop the gloves. Reads and reacts to plays well at the defensive end. Effectively closes his man off to the wall and staples him there. Only has one gear, but shows functional mobility for a big man. Uses long stick/reach to break up lots of passes. Settles things down when team gets in trouble in its own end. Difficult to beat in 1-on-1 situations down low in puck battles or off the rush.

- Red Line Report 2010 Draft Guide

"When he plays a physical, nasty, pass-first game, he's as good as there is.
- A scout, quoted in The Hockey News Draft Preview 2010

 

[InglewoodJack]

and that's precisely what habs need..with a bunch of smaller puck movers like markov, subban, bennett, carle, etc

Subban is like 6'00 218....

And Markov isn't small either.
And O'Byrne at 6'5 helps.

 

[Scuba-Steve]

Jarred Tinordi will play in London

Sorry guys it's in french - http://fr.canoe.ca/sports/nouvelles/hockey/lnh/archives/2010/08/20100810-223920.html

I believe the kid made a wise decision.He will be more effective in the OHL with his style of play and he is heading to one of the best organization in the entire CHL.

 

[Hale The Villain]

The Canadiens organization must have something against NCAA hockey

 

[Halifaxhab*]

this is what I was hoping for. Our prospects need the ice time and they can always go to school later

 

[Andrew Mack]

Rumour has it Riley Sheahan will be leaving Notre Dame too. Pretty brutal for the program to take those big losses right before the season.

 

[katatoniak]

Rumour has it Riley Sheahan will be leaving Notre Dame too. Pretty brutal for the program to take those big losses right before the season.

Really bad news for them.

 

[JeromeHP]

http://www.lfpress.com/sports/knights/2010/08/10/14985531.html

 

[Captain Mountain]

The Canadiens organization must have something against NCAA hockey

After all the disappointments we've had from the NCAA, it doesn't surprise me.

 

[Balls Mahoney]

God damn Montreal This kid is going to be such a steal. Very sad he didn't last until the Canucks.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Rumour has it Riley Sheahan will be leaving Notre Dame too. Pretty brutal for the program to take those big losses right before the season.

Who owns his CHL rights?

 

[SeriousFan09]

After all the disappointments we've had from the NCAA, it doesn't surprise me.

Had a lot more disappointment from CHL in the last 7 years.

Guimauve, Chipchura (Tendon injury, not his fault but still), D'Agostini, Aubin, Greg and Danny Stewart, Flood Maxwell, Urquhart, Locke to name a few guys who never came through for the team or never got far enough to pull on the jersey after draft day.