Confirmed with Link: Lapierre suspended for 5 games for hit on Boyle

[CrypTic]

So that to me demonstrates that that hit, while reckless, was definitely NOT something Torres did with malicious intent and something he would legitimately feel terrible about.

I agree with most of what you said. However, I don't think Torres's hit on Stoll was reckless. (And FWIW, I think the reckless term gets thrown around too often on these boards.)

Recklessness is generally something that is at least very close to sociopathic behavior. It's a wanton disregard for the safety of others or for the consequences of one's actions. E.g., "I don't give even one little **** if I completely destroy you (long-term) with my hit. If you don't want to get permanently maimed, don't play hockey. LOLOLOLOL." It can also be "we're almost certain that you did that intentionally bc it was so dangerous but we can't prove it."

I don't think that Torres's hit was even negligent (i.e., not as careful as an average NHL hockey player would/should have been under the circumstances) but I know I may have teal colored glasses here. I can definitely understand an argument that Torres was not as careful as he (or any other player in that circumstance) should have been. No offense, but I don't understand the claim that the hit was reckless.

My problems with the "eye-for-an-eye" or "Biblical" approach of suspending an offender until the victim returns to play still revolve around the definition of 'dirty' and the determination of 'intent'. . . .

I appreciate the spirit of the 'Biblical' approach, but administrating / adjudicating it is pretty darn complex and not any more 'objective' than the current regime.

I'm not advocating an "eye-for-an-eye" approach but I don't think you need to show any intent in order to use it. You can use it under a completely no-fault system.

 

[Eighth Fret]

Anything less than ten games would be a joke.

 

[sharkbite3]

Anything less than ten games would be a joke.

I agree, but the main board is full of "it wasn't even that bad" and "Boyle was at fault for turning his back to Lapierre at the last second". Lapierre had plenty of time to do...well, anything other than charge into the 22 on Boyle's back, but he did just that.

Let's blame Boyle, because he obviously lacks defensive fundamentals. I guess he needs 15 more years in the NHL before he learns those.

 

[Eighth Fret]

I agree, but the main board is full of "it wasn't even that bad" and "Boyle was at fault for turning his back to Lapierre at the last second". Lapierre had plenty of time to do...well, anything other than charge into the 22 on Boyle's back, but he did just that.

Let's blame Boyle, because he obviously lacks defensive fundamentals. I guess he needs 15 more years in the NHL before he learns those.

You've either gotta be a total St. Louis homer or Don Cherry to say Boyle had any responsibility. Lapierre had a ton of time to let up.

 

[sharkbite3]

Seems like more than just Blues fans, too, which is really odd. A lot of Blues fans were definitely horrified and wish Lapierre weren't on their team. I've seen the point of view that Boyle should've chipped the puck up the boards and absorbed the hit. The way he turned back and passed it behind the net happens just as much as chipping it up the boards, in my opinion. Lapierre is an *******, but he's probably not stupid (meaning he knew Boyle would turn and wasn't gonna stop no matter what). He was gonna hit Boyle, numbers facing him or not.

 

[hockeyball]

I agree, but the main board is full of "it wasn't even that bad" and "Boyle was at fault for turning his back to Lapierre at the last second". Lapierre had plenty of time to do...well, anything other than charge into the 22 on Boyle's back, but he did just that.

Let's blame Boyle, because he obviously lacks defensive fundamentals. I guess he needs 15 more years in the NHL before he learns those.

It's just a vocal minority, that's all.

I guarantee you the VAST majority of fans who saw that hit blame Lapierre, I doubt it's even close. You are just hearing from the people who car enough to post about it, us, the blues, and a bunch of random people who post about every hit and claim it 'wasn't that bad' because they fear hitting is being removed from the game (which is ludicrous, hockey is impossible to play without hitting).

 

[Gilligans Island]

It's just a vocal minority, that's all.

I guarantee you the VAST majority of fans who saw that hit blame Lapierre, I doubt it's even close. You are just hearing from the people who car enough to post about it, us, the blues, and a bunch of random people who post about every hit and claim it 'wasn't that bad' because they fear hitting is being removed from the game (which is ludicrous, hockey is impossible to play without hitting).

Another view that may increase the # of games that that dirtbag gets is the game was nationally broadcast. The NHL needs to draw in casual fans and hits like that won't help their cause.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

You've either gotta be a total St. Louis homer or Don Cherry to say Boyle had any responsibility. Lapierre had a ton of time to let up.

Don Cherry hates hits from behind. Despises them actually.

 

[landshark]

Don Cherry hates hits from behind. Despises them actually.

Then why on earth does he dress like that?

 

[Audio Outlaw]

I'm thinking 8 games.

 

[Barrie22]

Guessing after tonights hit by mcleod we will find out how much the suspension relies on past history.

 

[LadyStanley]

TSNBobMcKenzie 9:15pm via Twitter for BlackBerry® BTW, Lapierre's in-person hearing with NHL is noon ET in NYC.






So, decision may "hit the airwaves" with the video on NHL Live (2-4pm PT; aka 5-7pm ET).

 

[LadyStanley]

PollakOnSharks 8:02am via Web #SJShark GM Wilson and STL GM Armstrong are off-season golfing buddies. It may be an interesting round this summer. stltoday.com/sports/hockey/…

 

[TealTownUSA]

thanks for the update. 5 more mins to see what this dbag gets.

 

[dwood16]

He's gonna get 8 games.

 

[Barrie22]

its going to be an uneven number or a even number of games, and it is going to piss off certain fans no matter what. that is my prediction.

 

[slocal]

its going to be an uneven number or a even number of games, and it is going to piss off certain fans no matter what. that is my prediction.

what about an odd number of games?

 

[Levie]

its going to be an uneven number or a even number of games, and it is going to piss off certain fans no matter what. that is my prediction.

Blues fans will be happy he is out of the lineup. Canucks fans will be the angry ones.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

He will get 5 games.

 

[sr228]

He will get 5 games.

That's my guess too. Maybe 6 if Shanahan is in a bad mood.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

That's my guess too. Maybe 6 if Shanahan is in a bad mood.

If I had his job i'd always be in a bad mood.

 

[sjshrky27]

XM radio just stated that the hearing for Lapierre has concluded.

 

[Barrie22]

what about an odd number of games?

Well thats a big fail on my part, bows head and walks to corner of room in shame.

 

[SactoShark]

XM radio just stated that the hearing for Lapierre has concluded.

With Shanahan on a stretcher after suffering a hit from behind leaving the conference room.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

With Shanahan on a stretcher after suffering a hit from behind leaving the conference room.

And Max running around the building looking for a ref to hide behind.