Confirmed with Link: LA Kings @LAKings Welcome to Los Angeles, Phillip Danault!

[kingsfan28]

I am once again pointing out that the Quick thing was Wyshynski, not Dom

Odd that he used 21 game as the cut off. I guess going 16-4 and only taking 20 games doesn't count then? Gregs an odd dude when it comes to stats. I had to laugh when I saw Kolzig's name though and his less than impressive 12-9 record.

 

[kingsfan28]

Mr. Andersson with the new minted Rolex...

I hope it was a submariner.

 

[Johnny Utah]

This guy impresses me on every interview.

 

[All The Kings Men]

 

[JCabranes]

Welcome, new Jarrett Stoll!

My thoughts exactly but hey, we won 2 cups with Jarrett so there is that.

 

[Tijuana Trotz]

My thoughts exactly but hey, we won 2 cups with Jarrett so there is that.

We won one cup twice. -Phillip Danault

 

[ricardfromage]

He gives us a solid 1-3 punch and makes room for one of our star kids to take 2nd line C responsibilities. Next season will be very interesting. I like PD a bunch but we overpaid and over termed him by a fair bit. Still, he will be a welcomed addition. Welcome aboard PD! We certainly need a player like you.

 

[Doc McKenna]

He gives us a solid 1-3 punch and makes room for one of our star kids to take 2nd line C responsibilities. Next season will be very interesting. I like PD a bunch but we overpaid and over termed him by a fair bit. Still, he will be a welcomed addition. Welcome aboard PD! We certainly need a player like you.

In on offensive capacity don't get you hopes up. He had Radulov and Pacioretty for his one good season. They carried him on offense as both are near PPG players. But he won't make too many bad plays and can shadow top players. Great 3rd liner, but yeah you guys over paid by a couple years or by a million and a half over the same term. I just don't see Phil staying 2C for very long on your team. Hope he doesn't sulk if that happens. Because even his D game goes away when he does. Much like what happened to start this year on the habs.

 

[Mats26]

We got our top 3 center for the next 6 years with Danault. Nothing wrong with that. He can fill in on the top line if Kopi gets hurt, play 2C until QB is ready and drop to 3C when we are contending. Our 5-5 play also just got much better, plenty of stats\charts for Phil's 5-5 metrics to back that up. Harder to match us against us now, plus no McDavids, MacKinnons for Kopi which will be weird at first. Good character, locker room guy. Mentor for the prospects.

So the downside.
Offense. Alone he won't put up big numbers but he will give some room for Kopi and Arvidsson to breath. He fits in well with our 45-50 pts wingers in the top 6. I am more worried about Arvidsson getting healthy and back to form scoring ~25 goals for us. We can also drop a scoring winger on Phil's wing to see if that boosts his offense. I also feel better about Kaliyev playing in the top 6 now with either Kopi or Danault instead of Vilardi and having the line play in our own end all shift.

Contract. Bargain Bin offered 5 years at 5 million. Phil's agent countered and no response from the Habs. So here we are. We had to outbid the Rangers who were in on him as well. 5.5 over 6 is not that much considering the buyout option at year 4 - 6 is cheap. Good centers are also hard to come by and we got one without paying any assets.

This is the first real building block that the org has brought in towards building a contender. More pieces will come, interesting to see where we are in a few years from now.

 

[ricardfromage]

In on offensive capacity don't get you hopes up. He had Radulov and Pacioretty for his one good season. They carried him on offense as both are near PPG players. But he won't make too many bad plays and can shadow top players. Great 3rd liner, but yeah you guys over paid by a couple years or by a million and a half over the same term. I just don't see Phil staying 2C for very long on your team. Hope he doesn't sulk if that happens. Because even his D game goes away when he does. Much like what happened to start this year on the habs.

I agree. I don't think anyone here expects him to become a true 2nd line C and put up close to Carter/Kopi points be he should be able to carry his own water as a 3rd line C who can play on the 2nd line while players like Valardi Byfield Turcotte etc develop into that role. Solid player to add to our team. I think he will be a good pick up but like I said, I see him as an exceptional 3rd line C who can play up when needed and on the PK without any question. That is why I think we over termed and over paid for him but for what he provided he is worth it.

 

[bland]

2nd line, 3rd line, who cares. He will get more minutes than the kid in the other spot because there are more harder than soft shifts in a game. If he wins the majority of his shifts against the opposition's best and puts up 40 points, golden.

If you are disappointed that he doesn't meet your projected expectations of a second liner because he doesn't have what amounts to one more secondary assist every 5 games, whatever.

 

[tbrown33]

In on offensive capacity don't get you hopes up. He had Radulov and Pacioretty for his one good season. They carried him on offense as both are near PPG players. But he won't make too many bad plays and can shadow top players. Great 3rd liner, but yeah you guys over paid by a couple years or by a million and a half over the same term. I just don't see Phil staying 2C for very long on your team. Hope he doesn't sulk if that happens. Because even his D game goes away when he does. Much like what happened to start this year on the habs.

hasnt he been a .5 ppg player basically every season in Montreal?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

hasnt he been a .5 ppg player basically every season in Montreal?

a 44-per-82 player yeah and only 12 of his 140 points were on the PP, so it's really telling when people focus only on the smallest sample size of his tough production without context (these last playoffs playing the extreme shutdown role).

 

[cyclones22]

a 44-per-82 player yeah and only 12 of his 140 points were on the PP, so it's really telling when people focus only on the smallest sample size of his tough production without context (these last playoffs playing the extreme shutdown role).

And look, some of us aren't saying he's going to or even needs to be a good offensive contributor. History has shown that he has provided some offense so it's not like we're asking Colin Fraser to play 2C minutes here. Just to add a little more info to your numbers, Danault's last 3 seasons ozone start %s: 36.2 last season, 43.8 and 37.9. That's ridiculous. How sheltered were those other centers? In comparison to Kopi's: 50.7, 52.3 and 44.8. Hell, in Danault's entire time in Montreal, 58.2% of the time he was taking a defensive zone draw.

 

[Statto]

And look, some of us aren't saying he's going to or even needs to be a good offensive contributor. History has shown that he has provided some offense so it's not like we're asking Colin Fraser to play 2C minutes here. Just to add a little more info to your numbers, Danault's last 3 seasons ozone start %s: 36.2 last season, 43.8 and 37.9. That's ridiculous. How sheltered were those other centers? In comparison to Kopi's: 50.7, 52.3 and 44.8. Hell, in Danault's entire time in Montreal, 58.2% of the time he was taking a defensive zone draw.

Context. It’s always the bit people leave out when sharing the numbers, it makes it much different reading. Looking at the zone starts it makes his numbers look quite a bit more impressive.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

My opinion on this may not matter... and it's just off ice stuff... but I based on the conversation I just had with Danault I think he is going to be a fan favorite and quickly.

Said ALL the right things and said them unprovoked. Full interview coming on Monday but I get a really good vibe off this dude.

Hab fan here. He's a good dude. No problem off or in ice with him.

You have the perfect center for transitions years. He doesn't score himself but his stats are always in the plus like +16 or +17. Wins face-offs, defensive specialist player, you never had a center who shut down like he do. He's typical from Atlantic or Metropolitan division, he could come from Boston Bruins, NYlanders, Canes Carolina, Capitals Washington or the Flyers. They have that kind of "defensive freak" that destroys any offense the other team is trying. Danault destroyed last year's Oilers McDavid and Draisaitle, in PO time he neutralized Matthews and Marner (they ended up with one goal those two players combined). He did shut down the line of Kyle Connors and shut down some lines of Vegas Knights.

But maybe I need to learn that western teams had such defensive centers too, I don't know westerns teams so much. I saw the centers Danault would have to face and the only two teams I see a problem are Kraken and Canucks. All the rest, Danault will shut them all to zero.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Context. It’s always the bit people leave out when sharing the numbers, it makes it much different reading. Looking at the zone starts it makes his numbers look quite a bit more impressive.

He's more focus in his game when he's having a PK or defensive zone face off. And even when he lose his f-o he makes the life so difficult to the other team. He never clearly lose a face off, the other center never make a perfect pass to his defenseman for example, it's a zone face off lost, with the help of the wingers.

Another thing he's great for is intercept passes. He's a very good at pinning the puck and then the puck pin ball mostly in the good direction. in the '70s Bob Gainey was very good at that.

 

[Doc McKenna]

hasnt he been a .5 ppg player basically every season in Montreal?

Yes if you count 20 minutes a game with our top wingers each season

 

[tbrown33]

Yes if you count 20 minutes a game with our top wingers each season

at no point in his career has he averaged 20 minutes a game.

 

[Doc McKenna]

at no point in his career has he averaged 20 minutes a game.

Hilarious. He gets 20 minutes a game routinely on the habs. Dont stat watch. We say him play with the eye test. His linemates did as much to "shutdown" other lines and all 3 had terrible points in doing so.

18:51 isnt 20 on averge. But it shows that a guy with little pp time was on the ice a ton. Probably had a number of 20 minute and even 17 minute games with low pp...says a lot.

And i never said he averaged 20 minutes. I said he plays 20 minutes a game. Some nights 21, some 17 but that is top line minutes. He rarely played with bad wingers and sulked when he did.

 

[tbrown33]

Hilarious. He gets 20 minutes a game routinely on the habs. Dont stat watch. We say him play with the eye test. His linemates did as much to "shutdown" other lines and all 3 had terrible points in doing so.

18:51 isnt 20 on averge. But it shows that a guy with little pp time was on the ice a ton. Probably had a number of 20 minute and even 17 minute games with low pp...says a lot.

And i never said he averaged 20 minutes. I said he plays 20 minutes a game. Some nights 21, some 17 but that is top line minutes. He rarely played with bad wingers and sulked when he did.

Not sure you know how math works

Also he played over 20 minutes 3 times last year. What are we doing here?

Phillip Danault

And i never said he averaged 20 minutes. I said he plays 20 minutes a game.

lmao what

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Not sure you know how math works

Also he played over 20 minutes 3 times last year. What are we doing here?

Phillip Danault

Haven't you heard? We're busy talking down/making excuses for strong 5v5 production and metrics.

Thanks, happy visitor, your not-actually-mad-seething-bitterness doesn't show at all!

 

[tbrown33]

Haven't you heard? We're busy talking down/making excuses for strong 5v5 production and metrics.

Thanks, happy visitor, your not-actually-mad-seething-bitterness doesn't show at all!

he’s not mad about it on average, he’s just mad about it every day

 

[Trash Panda]

I could care less if he never sees the PP and gets 30 ugly points over 82 games.

If he takes 18-20 hard minutes against other teams top lines nightly, the rest of the roster is going to benefit. Trickle down effect, if you will.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I could care less if he never sees the PP and gets 30 ugly points over 82 games.

If he takes 18-20 hard minutes against other teams top lines nightly, the rest of the roster is going to benefit. Trickle down effect, if you will.

You even saw it on the Canadiens which is why I'm in shock there's such blatant denial

Like, they can't possibly think Suzuki and KK were just crushing heavy matchups, right?

They're in for a VERY rude awakening this year, particularly since KK wasn't doing much even WITH pillowsoft deployment...