Confirmed with Link: Kyle Turris [2 years - $1.65M per]

[Drivesaitl]

Turris is an offensively skilled center though. How does that compare with Letestu who got Pp time?

Turris gets plenty of PP time. Where much of his production comes from. he doesn't produce much these days wherever he is in the lineup outside of that. At best Turris is a PP specialist to rotate in. Doesn't add anything else.

 

[Zenos]

Hopefully the pre-Madonna in Turris with this situation and the forced Arizona trade is long gone at this point. Signing at this amount behind a team with Drai and McDavid tells me he's humbled and happy to accept a role. Let's go Turris!

The term is primadonna ("first lady" in Italian - referring to the female lead in an Opera).
That being said, I agree wholeheartedly - I'm Looking forward to what he brings. He should have a chip on his shoulder and be looking for redemption.

 

[Paralyzer008]

Turris can still pass but defensively this is not a good player, and I'm looking at our Cs and wondering where the defence comes from.

 

[CycloneSweep]

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

 

[TheNumber4]

Turris gets plenty of PP time. Where much of his production comes from. he doesn't produce much these days wherever he is in the lineup outside of that. At best Turris is a PP specialist to rotate in. Doesn't add anything else.

Well I really don’t think Holland’s plans was to acquire a PP specialist, were more than okay on the PP already. Holland is banking on his offensive skill to help the 5v5, it’s possible he could have a turnaround on that front.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Nope.

Sheahan has 12 goals and 14 assists at 5v5 over the past 3 seasons, and Turris has 19 goals and 40 assists at 5v5 over that same period.

Sheahan in last 3 seasons has 28G and only 1 of those a PP goal. Meaning 27 goals in either EV play or pk play, both of which are respectable numbers,

I think you counted one of Sheahans seasons twice..

 

[Llamamoto]

Turris gets plenty of PP time. Where much of his production comes from. he doesn't produce much these days wherever he is in the lineup outside of that. At best Turris is a PP specialist to rotate in. Doesn't add anything else.

I'm not sure if you saw my post, but over the last 3 years Sheahan had 26 points and Turris had 59.

Edit: NVM, just saw your reponse.

 

[SwedishFire]

I was thinking the same.

That line could do some damage with soft minutes.

The damage line. Doing lots of offensive dmage, and a lot of defensive damage. Sure fun for viewers.

Everybody is the winner!!

BUT, whos the 1st line LW??

Benson???

 

[Llamamoto]

Sheahan in last 3 seasons has 28G and only 1 of those a PP goal. Meaning 27 goals in either EV play or pk play, both of which are respectable numbers,

I think you counted one of Sheahans seasons twice..

Where are you getting your stats from? I'm using 5v5 play from Natural Stat Trick, those discount things like EN and shorthanded goals, which is only fair considering Sheahan also plays on the pk.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Turris can still pass but defensively this is not a good player, and I'm looking at our Cs and wondering where the defence comes from.

I'm thinking it'll be a 4c we add to do that.

I think Tippett wants this team to be strong defensively by simply keeping the puck out of our zone. Kind of like Vegas. They aren't a team that spends a lot of time in their zone, which limits chances and goals against.

Turris had an expected goals against of 1.92 last season. Sheahan was our best center for that last year at 2.3

 

[CycloneSweep]

Turris had 20 points 5v5 last year.
Sheahan has 10.

Turris averaged 11:49 5v5
Sheahan 10

 

[Oilhawks]

This is an amazing deal IMO. Big chance to bounce back and even if not, great right shot 3C that is great for Pulju as he gets started to play up to the top 6.

Haula was my first choice but I think Turris at this deal is better than Haula.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Where are you getting your stats from? I'm using 5v5 play from Natural Stat Trick, those discount things like EN and shorthanded goals, which is only fair considering Sheahan also plays on the pk.

I never use garbage sites like that which discount one thing over another at whim. Just NHL stats. Actual amounts of goals scored with no arbitrary delimiters.

Fact of the matter is Sheahan had 27G aside from PP in last 3 seasons, in the harder minutes, either EV or PK.

Turris, stated to be "far better option" scored 19 non PP goals over last 3 seasons.

This is not an improvement, and its interesting how much people are inflating Turris value suddenly. If this player fell to Calgary we'd all be having a laugh about it.

 

[Cypress]

I bet he ends up on the first unit, they'll continue to load up that unit and play them the entire two minutes. No reason not to really. Maybe Puljujarvi will get some minutes there as well.

There isn't a spot for him on the first unit, but the 30 seconds the second unit sometimes gets might be a little more dangerous than its been in the last couple years.

 

[tellermine]

It is possibility that next season Oilers have 3 lines that try to bring offence.
Turris might just be Puljujärvis center at third like when season starts.
Huge ridk there but if they deliver...

 

[Llamamoto]

I never use garbage sites like that which discount one thing over another at whim. Just NHL stats. Actual amounts of goals scored with no arbitrary delimiters.

Fact of the matter is Sheahan had 27G aside from PP in last 3 seasons, in the harder minutes, either EV or PK.

Turris, stated to be "far better option" scored 19 non PP goals over last 3 seasons.

This is not an improvement, and its interesting how much people are inflating Turris value suddenly. If this player fell to Calgary we'd all be having a laugh about it.

Natural Stat Trick is a garbage site?

They don't discount some things over others, they have filters that can sort stats in all kinds of ways. They are probably the most reliable stat tracking site that's out there.

 

[Lacaar]

Well the price is pretty good.
I think he may be a bit of a bump over Sheahan 5vs5. He'll contribute to more offense but perhaps less on defence.
Though the pk just took a hit perhaps.

Hope he works out but we need some piss and vinegar help him out I think.

 

[FanOfSadTeam]

Turris seems like a really good dude off the ice. Glad he's an Oiler.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Well I really don’t think Holland’s plans was to acquire a PP specialist, were more than okay on the PP already. Holland is banking on his offensive skill to help the 5v5, it’s possible he could have a turnaround on that front.

Holland likes vets of any type. This is the kind of add that accomplished nothing in Detroit and one of the reasons Holland got axed in Detroit.

Its so predictable here. People see the name and remember a player that put up 60pts once and go oh wow? We're not getting that player or anything close to it.

Last time I was being told we were getting offensive help was AA. Time before that was lol Spooner.

At least AA was taking a shot at something.

Unless we improve our bottomsix players immensely and finally kick dolts like Khaira to the curb and stop rotating in pretenders its going to be hard for Turris to get much done anywhere.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I never use garbage sites like that which discount one thing over another at whim. Just NHL stats. Actual amounts of goals scored with no arbitrary delimiters.

Fact of the matter is Sheahan had 27G aside from PP in last 3 seasons, in the harder minutes, either EV or PK.

Turris, stated to be "far better option" scored 19 non PP goals over last 3 seasons.

This is not an improvement, and its interesting how much people are inflating Turris value suddenly. If this player fell to Calgary we'd all be having a laugh about it.

It doesn't discount one thing over another by a whim. You can have it do all strengths, even strength, penalty kill, 5v5. You are the one discounting some goals on a whim to fit your narrative. That's you.

 

[McD97]

This was almost 10 years ago... Welcome to Edmonton

 

[McDNicks17]

Not really sure why there's a Sheahan comparison.

Turris obviously wasn't brought in to play that role.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Natural Stat Trick is a garbage site?

They don't discount some things over others, they have filters that can sort stats in all kinds of ways. They are probably the most reliable stat tracking site that's out there.

Their stats aren't even fact checked and cross tabulated. Which makes it unusable imo.

NHL Stats aren't great in themselves, and hockey stats tend not to be,

Used to be a lol rundown here of how many stats and games that sites like Behind the Net and Natural stat trick somehow missed.

 

[Fourier]

Natural Stat Trick is a garbage site?

They don't discount some things over others, they have filters that can sort stats in all kinds of ways. They are probably the most reliable stat tracking site that's out there.

I agree. Great site. Really easy to use compared with the NHL site.