Kucherovs development

[Hockey4Life91]

What happened to Tyler Johnson and palat? I rem back in 14-15 them and kucherov and were sick together. Now they're meh?

Kucherov simply made them better. He was the straw that stirred the triplets, or TKO, line. And since Johnson has been back with Kuch for large stretches this year, his stats look much better - he reached the 20 goal plateau last night.

Anyone who plays with Kuch puts up huge numbers. Point is amazing, for instance, likely perennial 75-90 point scorer. But he is on pace to crack 100 and his stats are probably a bit inflated given his current beneficiary status.

 

[tony d]

Guy's a solid player for sure. Went over 90 points last night, got to think he's at 100 by the 1st of March.

 

[DRW204]

the fact he does all this without trying is amazing

 

[JoVel]

Kucherov simply made them better. He was the straw that stirred the triplets, or TKO, line. And since Johnson has been back with Kuch for large stretches this year, his stats look much better - he reached the 20 goal plateau last night.

Eh, not really. Johnson was our best forward that year.

 

[The Macho King]

the fact he does all this without trying is amazing

He does look lazy as shit out there.

 

[Matty Sundin]

He is by far the most GAngsta player in the nhl

 

[AtNightWeFly]

I wouldn't sweat it, Edmonton fans have been wrong a lot the past decade.

Not just fans.

 

[AtNightWeFly]

the fact he does all this without trying is amazing

I love his nonchalant style. But when he scores it's like sparks flying off the screen.

 

[Dache]

The fact he’s a 2nd Rounder makes ya think that literately any team could’ve had IMO the best winger in the NHL. But gotta admit that Tampa knows how to develop them some very good forwards, and who knows if he would have the same success in another teams system.

I think I remember reading that he was only that low due to him possibly staying in Russia or something.

 

[Kamiccolo]

He doesn't have the best hands, fastest legs, hardest shot or biggest strength, but he has arguably the greatest hockey iq in the history of the game.

Uhhh Pettersson??

 

[Deen]

Turinabol?

 

[authentic]

He doesn't have the best hands, fastest legs, hardest shot or biggest strength, but he has arguably the greatest hockey iq in the history of the game.

His hands and shot are pretty damn good and no he doesn't have the highest IQ in the history of the game, but it is way, way up there without a doubt.

 

[authentic]

I have a much different take. His hands and shot are amazing.

Yeah you don't score like that in the NHL without elite hands and shot which he quite clearly has.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

His shot is certainly elite, maybe not Ovi level but among the top 1% in the league.

Can hardly believe how good this guy got....Steph Curry of the NHL? Obviously their paths aren't exactly the same but he went from a future star/budding superstar to having one of the most statistically dominant seasons in recent memory in 12 months. Even his biggest supporters would probably laugh 2 years ago if you told them he could hit 130.

 

[JoVel]

His shot is certainly elite, maybe not Ovi level but among the top 1% in the league.

His wrist shot is elite. He rarely uses a slapshot unless it's a one-timer and honestly his one-timer is pretty average.

 

[authentic]

Can you imagine? Thinking the guy that went 1st overall would be better than a 2nd round pick from the previous year. Just CRAZY!

Edit: Props to the Bolts for their player development. It's downright impressive.

Lol he's psychic obviously and anyone who isn't is just plain stupid.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

He doesn't have the best hands, fastest legs, hardest shot or biggest strength, but he has arguably the greatest hockey iq in the history of the game.

His Iq isn’t better than f***ing Wayne Gretzky, pls.

 

[42]

I remember polls back in 2015 asking which of the triplets was best. Kucherov was by no means the unanimous favorite.

 

[Newt91]

Crazy development, I mean every team passed on him in 2011. Even Tampa drafted Namestnikov before him. Hindsight 20/20 I guess

 

[JoVel]

I remember polls back in 2015 asking which of the triplets was best. Kucherov was by no means the unanimous favorite.

Johnson was the center and point leader on that line. Palat had elite defensive game and would've finished ahead of Kuch in points if not for injuries. There were arguments for both Johnson and Palat being the best player on that line, not so much for Kucherov.

Now Kucherov has 33 more points than those two combined this season.

 

[BoltSTH]

I think I remember reading that he was only that low due to him possibly staying in Russia or something.

Yes that what other GM feared and most passed on him twice (58th pick). SFY likes Russians.

 

[DFC]

Whenever people bring up these subjects, they usually fail to recognize the Jon Cooper Factor. Kucherov scored 18 points in his rookie year partly because he spent most of the year in Cooper's doghouse for poor defensive play. Kuch's confidence was shot partway through, and it wasn't a given he would make the roster the next year out of camp (Coop said as much in a HC@N interview).

It wasn't until 2016/2017 that Kucherov was given 1st PP duty, after Stamkos blew his knee. That's where Kuch really started to take off. Drouin-Hedman-Kucherov were lethal. And now Stamkos-Hedman-Kucherov are lethal.

Kucherov has definitely developed a lot, but there's a lot more to the story than those numbers tell.

 

[DFC]

Johnson was the center and point leader on that line. Palat had elite defensive game and would've finished ahead of Kuch in points if not for injuries. There were arguments for both Johnson and Palat being the best player on that line, not so much for Kucherov.

Now Kucherov has 33 more points than those two combined this season.

Yeah, but those other two have had a diminished role while Kucherov's has increased. Johnson was more/less the 1C in 2015, whereas now he's a top-six winger, getting very limited PP time.

 

[jiboy]

I have seen Kucherov play live in juniors and while he produced roughly 2 PPG I was not really sure his game would translate to the pros as I thought he was a bit soft , prone to overpassing and trying stuffs too complicated for no reasons. If I had to guess between him and Andrighetto im not sure who I would have chosen at that time.

Crazy progression and pretty funny with hindsight to see he was traded to Rouyn by the remparts (quebec) so they could keep.. Grigorenko.

 

[Atas2000]

2013–14	Tampa Bay Lightning	NHL	52	9	9	18pts
2014–15	Tampa Bay Lightning	NHL	82	29	36	65pts
2015–16	Tampa Bay Lightning	NHL	77	30	36	66pts
2016–17	Tampa Bay Lightning	NHL	74	40	45	85pts		—	—	—	—	—
2017–18	Tampa Bay Lightning	NHL	80	39	61	100pts

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Scored 18 points as a 21 year old and will now score around 115-120p at 25 (26)

Was well under PPG at age of 23.

Crazy development.

That's what CHL and AHL do to a russian forward. A major stall of development.