Rumor: Kreider's NO Trade List includes ALL Canadian teams (Speculation on Destination)

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

Kreider is not 52...he's 28. Plus all his friends and family likely live in the NE/NYC area.

The Maritime Provinces don't have a team. We were OT.

 

[blankall]

I think people here are dissecting far too much.

This thread has suddenly become a debate about urban sprawl and how US cities are structured compared to Canadian cities. Does anybody really think Kreider got into such specifics when he made his NTC list?

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but if an American lists the US as his primary residence then dont they save $$$ on taxes? Apparently that's what Mathews did. If that's the case then wouldn't Kreider be financially better off playing anywhere in Canada, especially Calgary or Edmonton where there is no PST, than where he currently is in NYC?

Income taxes are based on where you reside. You can't just list your an address on your tax return. You actually have to live there. The IRS and the CRA would be all over an athlete with a publicly reported multi-million dollar salary being untruthful about where they live.

All athletes and performers will pay income tax in the place they actually perform though. So the above would only count for home games. So even if you could pull some trick where you went home every night across the border, you'd still pay taxes where you played your home games.

 

[Foppberg]

I thought PEI, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia were all great places (Halifax was incredibly foggy though).

Halifax is a very underrated city. As is fredericton.

 

[Riche16]

Maybe he's worried how much he'll love it.

Subtly amazing post.

 

[Kupo]

I think people here are dissecting far too much.

This thread has suddenly become a debate about urban sprawl and how US cities are structured compared to Canadian cities. Does anybody really think Kreider got into such specifics when he made his NTC list?

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but if an American lists the US as his primary residence then dont they save $$$ on taxes? Apparently that's what Mathews did. If that's the case then wouldn't Kreider be financially better off playing anywhere in Canada, especially Calgary or Edmonton where there is no PST, than where he currently is in NYC?

Professional athletes are subject to Jock Tax, which means they have to pay income taxes on every state they play in. So players that choose to play in FLA are still getting taxed on away games (unless they’re playing in Texas or Nevada I believe).

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

Professional athletes are subject to Jock Tax, which means they have to pay income taxes on every state they play in. So players that choose to play in FLA are still getting taxed on away games (unless they’re playing in Texas or Nevada I believe).

Tennessee as well. That's one of the reasons I left NYC for Nashville.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Halifax is a very underrated city. As is fredericton.

Both Halifax and Moncton are growing at an incredible rate ATM.

Halifax is a proper city now though compared to back in the 90's, the amalgamation did wonders for Halifax!
Moncton's still a couple decades away from that type of density but it's coming.(half a dozen cranes are up atm) and they have some massive projects lineup/approved. Greater Moncton be flirting with 200,000+ in no time.

 

[CapSpace]

I hope this dirty **** can't get traded and rot in NY until july.

 

[Kupo]

I hope this dirty **** can't get traded and rot in NY until july.

Salty Montreal fans

 

[YoSoyLalo]

I hope this dirty **** can't get traded and rot in NY until july.

lmao

 

[TarasenkosForearm]

Tarasenko is ahead of schedule and everyone is forgetting about him..

 

[Jacksonbobson]

He'll be traded to Buffalo

 

[KevinRedkey]

Kreider is not 52...he's 28. Plus all his friends and family likely live in the NE/NYC area.

Toronto has good nightlife and is one of the closer cities to NYC in the NHL.

They don't have the cap but I find it off they'd be on a no trade list. Seems like some Americans don't want to live in Canada, but Canadians don't seem to be as picky with this.

 

[Foppberg]

Both Halifax and Moncton are growing at an incredible rate ATM.

Halifax is a proper city now though compared to back in the 90's, the amalgamation did wonders for Halifax!
Moncton's still a couple decades away from that type of density but it's coming.(half a dozen cranes are up atm) and they have some massive projects lineup/approved. Greater Moncton be flirting with 200,000+ in no time.

Yeah Halifax is booming right now. My sister and her boyfriend have been looking for a home for over a year now, anything they find gets scooped up in a second.

Not a huge fan of Moncton though, I went to school at UNB in Fredericton and loved it. Never will be mistaken for a city but it's a cool little spot.

 

[Rangers ftw]

I hope this dirty **** can't get traded and rot in NY until july.

Good thing Kreider didn’t got hurt when Emelin tripped him into Price.

 

[BostonBruins11]

Yeah Halifax is booming right now. My sister and her boyfriend have been looking for a home for over a year now, anything they find gets scooped up in a second.

Not a huge fan of Moncton though, I went to school at UNB in Fredericton and loved it. Never will be mistaken for a city but it's a cool little spot.

Yeah Moncton's more of a hub, so close to everything (warmest beach in Canada, Fundy Park 45min, PEI 45min.) Etc

The city was pretty meh but its turning around quite fast, especially over the last 5 years!

I agree Fredericton is a fun little city, I also spend a year at UNB. Great memories

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

I hope this dirty **** can't get traded and rot in NY until july.

How much rent are you charging Kreider to live in your head?

 

[CapSpace]

How much rent are you charging Kreider to live in your head?

So much place pal, it's free. Wow fun. Amaze head.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

That’s steep for a rental. 1st plus a b prospect is historically about right. Maybe throw in a sweetener if he re-signs.

Rentals don’t return top tier prospects.

We'll see what happens.

I look at the prices of the rentals this year, and see them costing more. If the baseline coming in was viewed as at least a first round pick and a good prospect, I would think that the winning offer has a good chance to be a first round pick and a very good/elite prospect. I don't think Gorton's going to overcomplicate things. There are 5+ teams interested. They'll all put their 1st round pick on the table, and try to offer a good prospect as the second piece in return. The team that decides to up their offer to a very good/elite prospect will be the team that makes the trade for Kreider. It's very likely one team will decide to do so.

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

I hope he considers NYI a Canadian team.

 

[Taro Tsujimoto]

He'll be traded to Buffalo

Yeah, I’m pretty sure every non-Sabre in the league whose contract has an NMC wouldn’t in their right mind waive to come here.

 

[Langdon Alger]

I hope this dirty **** can't get traded and rot in NY until july.

there are worse places to be than New York.

 

[Mantis]

Ahhh ok. Makes sense now. I still don't know who Madonna is though.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Cost is certainly relative (taxes not so much.....way higher here than in many US places). Was in the US for a week recently and most things were actually more expensive there than here. Basically they do well on things like gas, poultry and liquor. Certainly if you are in places like Toronto or Vancouver (where I assume most of them would choose to be) you'll pay big bucks. One thing I love about the Maritimes (where none of them would obviously end up) is the cost. You can get a 2,400 sqft house with land and water view for like $60,000 CDN and be close to forests, beaches etc. All depends what you like in life!

While most of what you said is true... I have no idea where you’re getting a 2,400sqft home with land and water for that price Martines are cheap but no where close to that.

 

[93LEAFS]

Professional athletes are subject to Jock Tax, which means they have to pay income taxes on every state they play in. So players that choose to play in FLA are still getting taxed on away games (unless they’re playing in Texas or Nevada I believe).

That's why most players in lower-tax jurisdictions want their contracts to be signing bonus heavy. See Stamkos and to a lesser extent Kucherov, Seguin, Bobrovsky, Benn, etc. Getting paid in bonus stays in your home tax jurisdiction, whereas the game check (pulled out of base salary) is counted towards the jock tax. There are obviously other benefits to getting frontloaded signing bonuses (a dollar today is worth more than a dollar in 5 years, etc).