Confirmed with Link: Kraken sign Grubauer (5.9M x 6)

[Ray Martyniuk]

Another good move. Solid tandem and Vanecek as a top prospect.

I expect everyone except Grubauer to be shopped...Driedger,Vanecek or Daccord though the latter is AHL waiver exempt I believe

 

[yzerman]

Im defenitely going to follow this team close next season really like the way it is built!reminds me of USA team in Lake Placid 1980 (movie miracle on ice)that no one belived in but competed harder then anyone else and got great succes.

 

[Gniwder]

I expect everyone except Grubauer to be shopped...Driedger,Vanecek or Daccord though the latter is AHL waiver exempt I believe

Yes, for one more season.

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[Fistfullofbeer]

You want to try to make a splash, look at bundling Dunn + Vanecek (two RFA's) for a true young top-6 C. I think it could be done.

 

[Dog]

Did not expect Grubauer to sign in Seattle but it's a good surprise.

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

What the hell does Washington have that is of interest besides high draft choices?

 

[Dog]

You want to try to make a splash, look at bundling Dunn + Vanecek (two RFA's) for a true young top-6 C. I think it could be done.

Yeah but hopefully not Eichel going to cost to much. Hard to find a top end center that a team be willing to trade.

 

[Sleestak Nation]

That list is shrinking. Canes signed both Andersen and Raanta. Bolts signed Brian Elliot.

Calgary. Edmonton if they buy out Koskinen.

Buffalo. They need goalies ... two of them in fact.

 

[superdeluxe]

You want to try to make a splash, look at bundling Dunn + Vanecek (two RFA's) for a true young top-6 C. I think it could be done.

I need potential names lol

 

[BeniersIsKraken]

You want to try to make a splash, look at bundling Dunn + Vanecek (two RFA's) for a true young top-6 C. I think it could be done.

While I usually agree with you, I'd rather re-sign Dunn. I think he could be really, really good and helps to solidify our top 4.

 

[HoseEmDown]

This one is a bit surprising. Clearly Grubaur is far more proven than Driedger so you upgrade there. Driedger is probably better in a 1B role anyway but 3.5M is a bit pricey for that but the goalie prices today have been weird. It also hurts a conference opponent in Colorado. Not sure what the trade market is for Vanecek but if they can get a 2nd + then its a good deal. If they get just a 3rd like Nedeljkovic then not so much. Looks like they missed out on Hamilton.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

While I usually agree with you, I'd rather re-sign Dunn. I think he could be really, really good and helps to solidify our top 4.

Oh .. I am not advocating moving Dunn. I really like him, but that is the type of package we would need to look at giving up if we want a RFA top-6 F back.

 

[The Marquis]

I feel VERY confident that Kuznetsov isn't who we'd pick up. Doesn't fit the character profile of a Francis acquisition. Will be interesting to see what happens going forward. Definitely a decent looking team.

 

[The Marquis]

I think the idea of a Dunn/Vanecek package would be attractive to a lot of teams.

 

[Dog]

I think the idea of a Dunn/Vanecek package would be attractive to a lot of teams.

Which team(s) still needs a goalie?

 

[Gniwder]

Calgary. Edmonton if they buy out Koskinen.

Buffalo. They need goalies ... two of them in fact.

Koskinen has one year left at $4.5M. I wonder how much they'd be willing to pay to shed that salary.

Vanecek for Koskinen + 1st?

That trade has to be worth at least 2 second rounders, probably more.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Koskinen has one year left at $4.5M. I wonder how much they'd be willing to pay to shed that salary.

Vanecek for Koskinen + 1st?

That trade has to be worth at least 2 second rounders, probably more.

What exactly should we do with Koskinen?
He would be our third goalie, makes $4.5 M, like you said, and we'd probably have to retain(+ most likely add something) if we wanted to get rid off that contract.

 

[Gniwder]

What exactly should we do with Koskinen?
He would be our third goalie, makes $4.5 M, like you said, and we'd probably have to retain(+ most likely add something) if we wanted to get rid off that contract.

Complete salary dump. Hence the 1st rounder attached.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Koskinen has one year left at $4.5M. I wonder how much they'd be willing to pay to shed that salary.

Vanecek for Koskinen + 1st?

That trade has to be worth at least 2 second rounders, probably more.

That is a crappy trade for us. We take on a cap dump and give up a useful RFA goalie for just a 1st. I would rather try to find value for Vanecek in a solo trade OR package him with a different prospect/pick to get value back.

 

[Gniwder]

That is a crappy trade for us. We take on a cap dump and give up a useful RFA goalie for just a 1st. I would rather try to find value for Vanecek in a solo trade OR package him with a different prospect/pick to get value back.

Vanacek is backup level goalie, and that typically goes for a 2nd round pick

Grubauer (then a backup but a better goalie obviously) was traded for a 2nd and a cap dump (Orpik) going to Colorado. (Note the cap dump went the opposite direction in this trade.) I think fair value for Vanacek is probably a 2nd and 4th. Ned was traded for a measly 3rd.

Seattle doesn't have any worthwhile prospects, so I don't see that trade happening. Vanacek goes for a draft picks or equivalent value prospect.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Vanacek is backup level goalie, and that typically goes for a 2nd round pick

Grubauer (then a backup but a better goalie obviously) was traded for a 2nd and a cap dump (Orpik) going to Colorado. (Note the cap dump went the opposite direction in this trade.) I think fair value for Vanacek is probably a 2nd and 4th. Ned was traded for a measly 3rd.

Seattle doesn't have any worthwhile prospects, so I don't see that trade happening. Vanacek goes for a draft picks or equivalent value prospect.

Meh. I would argue that he would fetch more than a 2nd round pick so I guess we can agree to disagree with that assessment. Also, based on the the way Kraken have done business so far, I do not think they have any interest at all in taking cap dumps.

 

[Gniwder]

Meh. I would argue that he would fetch more than a 2nd round pick so I guess we can agree to disagree with that assessment. Also, based on the the way Kraken have done business so far, I do not think they have any interest at all in taking cap dumps.

Name a trade where a backup goalie has fetched more than a 2nd? I think you're overvaluing the asset. Anything more than a 2nd rd pick is a win.

You're probably right that Francis is not gonna take a cap dump though.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Name a trade where a backup goalie has fetched more than a 2nd? I think you're overvaluing the asset. Anything more than a 2nd rd pick is a win.

You're probably right that Francis is not gonna take a cap dump though.

Meh. Martin Jones fetched a late 1st. This was when he was a backup and had really good numbers.

Either way, like we both agree, GMRF is unlikely to take a cap dump.

 

[The Marquis]

I keep seeing these weird statements about how Grubauer only had one good season. Looking at his stats, the man had 1 GREAT season and a whole bunch of good seasons with a couple not so great (as a young goalie would). I compared his career stats to any goalie last season and even those are top tier. Great stuff.

 

[Dolemite]

Jesus Christ this is one hell of a signing…and for term too. The foundation is in place.