Player Discussion Koekkoek for Slater

[McTonyBrar]

This guy had 2 games where he as decent. After that he's been average. But it's better than Russell

 

[Oilhawks]

This guy had 2 games where he as decent. After that he's been average. But it's better than Russell

He’s like a better prime Benning to me which is great for a bottom pairing guy

 

[theonetheonly]

What is he doing I see he only played a handful of games in Bakersfield

 

[North]

What is he doing I see he only played a handful of games in Bakersfield

Somebody in another thread said he’s on leave from the team.

 

[jukon]

He’s like a better prime Benning to me which is great for a bottom pairing guy

I miss Bennings hits.

 

[yukoner88]

Now that's not a name I was expecting to read while having my morning coffee

 

[McDNicks17]

He's going to make $1.1M to play in the AHL next season. Not bad.

I bet Katz is a fan of that second year with a 30% raise Holland gave him.

 

[Oilhawks]

He's going to make $1.1M to play in the AHL next season. Not bad.

I bet Katz is a fan of that second year with a 30% raise Holland gave him.

Katz after every manager he’s had spends his money on fringe players:

 

[Stoneman89]

Yet one more fringe player that Holland felt compelled to give a multi year deal to keep from being signed by the hordes who would surely be after him.

 

[Oilhawks]

Yet one more fringe player that Holland felt compelled to give a multi year deal to keep from being signed by the hordes who would surely be after him.

Unless you’re Katz, your care level should be around 0. He wipes his ass with that money so his care level is probably about the same

 

[MoontoScott]

Unless you’re Katz, your care level should be around 0. He wipes his ass with that money so his care level is probably about the same

But its not about Katz-cash but rather the cap hit (damage) that these 2 year deals (instead of 1) have on the club?

 

[MessierII]

But its not about Katz-cash but rather the cap hit (damage) that these 2 year deals (instead of 1) have on the club?

There is no cap damage to send him down though

 

[Stoneman89]

There is no cap damage to send him down though

Even though we can send him down, doesn't his salary count towards our cap, no matter where he's playing? You'd be burying the player but not his cap hit.

 

[Oilhawks]

But its not about Katz-cash but rather the cap hit (damage) that these 2 year deals (instead of 1) have on the club?

I’m pretty sure it’s entirely buriable

 

[Oilhawks]

Even though we can send him down, doesn't his salary count towards our cap, no matter where he's playing? You'd be burying the player but not his cap hit.

No. He still makes the same salary in the AHL though. But since he’s been on personal leave I’m not sure if he’s even getting Katz money right now

 

[bellagiobob]

Even though we can send him down, doesn't his salary count towards our cap, no matter where he's playing? You'd be burying the player but not his cap hit.

From Cap Friendly:

What is a Buried Contract?​

Teams do not receive full cap relief when a player on a one-way NHL contract is reassigned to the American Hockey League, or is loaned to a team in another professional league.
The players salary cap hit, minus the sum of the minimum NHL salary for the respective season and $375,000, still counts towards the team’s salary cap total.
The cap hit relief is therefore equal to the minimum salary of the respective season + $375,000:

• 2014-15: $550,000 + $375,000 = $925,000
• 2015-16: $575,000 + $375,000 = $950,000
• 2016-17: $575,000 + $375,000 = $950,000
• 2017-18: $650,000 + $375,000 = $1,025,000
• 2018-19: $650,000 + $375,000 = $1,025,000
• 2019-20: $700,000 + $375,000 = $1,075,000
• 2020-21: $700,000 + $375,000 = $1,075,000
• 2021-22: $750,000 + $375,000 = $1,125,000
• 2022-23: $750,000 + $375,000 = $1,125,000
• 2023-24: $775,000 + $375,000 = $1,150,000
• 2024-25: $775,000 + $375,000 = $1,150,000
• 2025-26: $775,000 + $375,000 = $1,150,000

 

[Stoneman89]

From Cap Friendly:

What is a Buried Contract?​

Teams do not receive full cap relief when a player on a one-way NHL contract is reassigned to the American Hockey League, or is loaned to a team in another professional league.
The players salary cap hit, minus the sum of the minimum NHL salary for the respective season and $375,000, still counts towards the team’s salary cap total.
The cap hit relief is therefore equal to the minimum salary of the respective season + $375,000:

• 2014-15: $550,000 + $375,000 = $925,000
• 2015-16: $575,000 + $375,000 = $950,000
• 2016-17: $575,000 + $375,000 = $950,000
• 2017-18: $650,000 + $375,000 = $1,025,000
• 2018-19: $650,000 + $375,000 = $1,025,000
• 2019-20: $700,000 + $375,000 = $1,075,000
• 2020-21: $700,000 + $375,000 = $1,075,000
• 2021-22: $750,000 + $375,000 = $1,125,000
• 2022-23: $750,000 + $375,000 = $1,125,000
• 2023-24: $775,000 + $375,000 = $1,150,000
• 2024-25: $775,000 + $375,000 = $1,150,000
• 2025-26: $775,000 + $375,000 = $1,150,000

Thanks, Bob. Kind of what I thought. So...if the Oil were to bury KK next year, specifically, how much would he count against the cap, based on his contract?

 

[bellagiobob]

Thanks, Bob. Kind of what I thought. So...if the Oil were to bury KK next year, specifically, how much would he count against the cap, based on his contract?

Zero. Cap hit for both years of his contract is 925k.

 

[Stoneman89]

Zero. Cap hit for both years of his contract is 925k.

Makes just little enough that we don't get stung.

 

[Oilhawks]

I don’t like signing “maybes” to two year contracts but my understanding is it’s to keep the AAV down. It would be worse having them signed for something that can’t be buried for the full year. Yes, shouldn’t be signed either way.

 

[Stoneman89]

I don’t like signing “maybes” to two year contracts but my understanding is it’s to keep the AAV down. It would be worse having them signed for something that can’t be buried for the full year. Yes, shouldn’t be signed either way.

I think you're right. No kidding. If Slater KK doesn't want to sign here for one year at near league minimum, then see ya later.

 

[Oilhawks]

I think you're right. No kidding. If Slater KK doesn't want to sign here for one year at near league minimum, then see ya later.

Yeah, I find it surprising that him (and Shore) needed the extra year to get it done at those prices. So probably some sort of sentimental reasons or something, which isn’t great.

Smith, on the other hand, was coming off a season with some Vezina nominations, yes he’s 40 but I wouldn’t have been entirely shocked if other teams were willing to throw $3M at him to pry him away. If he was playing like he has been lately for most of the season, it would have looked like a steal.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Even though we can send him down, doesn't his salary count towards our cap, no matter where he's playing? You'd be burying the player but not his cap hit.

That's not hiw it works. You can bury around 1.25M on any contract. So any contracts under that amount do nothing to the cap.

 

[FanOfSadTeam]

Update on Koekkoek.



Hope he's doing better.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I was far too hard on him, but to imagine he could be competitive at the NHL level while basically starving himself. All the best to him, sincerely