Proposal: Kevin Hayes to Calgary

[Wayne Primeau]

Flames are trying to compete and add offense. Rangers are rebuilding.

Proposal

To the Rangers:
Sam Bennett
Brett Kulak

To the Flames:
Kevin Hayes

Flames get a guy who's played with Gaudreau before and who can play wing or centre. Rangers get a guy who's played at a third-line level in Calgary but who still has lots of room to grow plus a defenseman who's stuck behind a ton of guys for now but who has played well in limited minutes -- and who only scores against the Rangers.

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[HabsTown]

Bennett doesn’t have the value CGY fans think he has IMO but I could see it since Hayes is set to be UFA

 

[tradenashnow]

Flames are trying to compete and add offense. Rangers are rebuilding.

Proposal

To the Rangers:
Sam Bennett
Brett Kulak

To the Flames:
Kevin Hayes

Flames get a guy who's played with Gaudreau before and who can play wing or centre. Rangers get a guy who's played at a third-line level in Calgary but who still has lots of room to grow plus a defenseman who's stuck behind a ton of guys for now but who has played well in limited minutes -- and who only scores against the Rangers.

You might not have noticed but Jeff Gorton is giving you the finger. Rangers have 0.00% interest in Kulak. They have about 5 left handed defenseman prospects a heck of a lot more talented than that guy. Bennett is for the most part, a bust.

 

[Wayne Primeau]

Yeah, a necessary prerequisite here is that Hayes doesn't come with an extension.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Swap Bennett for your 2019 1st.

 

[Wayne Primeau]

Swap Bennett for your 2019 1st.

For a rental? Please.

 

[HighLifeMan]

No thanks,
I like Calgary's chances of signing Hayes as a UFA should we have an interest in his services.

Bennett will prove his worth this season.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Bennett
Stone

For

Hayes
Vesey

 

[Shootertooter]

The Rangers will get at least a 1st and a decent prospect for Hayes at the deadline.
Anything less valuable is a no.....this is a no.

 

[Baxterman]

Pass

I have no interest in Hayes at all and really don't see where he fits in the line-up especially for that salary.

I don't really care about Kulak but Bennett at least is a good fit and has potential left even if it isn't the same level that it was when drafted.

 

[TGWL]

For a rental? Please.

Yeah, rentals get first round picks. Whether you think Hayes is the right player for that or not is another story. But rentals do bring back first round picks if they hold that value.

 

[Zats Muccarello]

Pass, we don’t need another center to take Chytil or Lias’ place in the top 6 after Hayes is gone.

 

[tgo0]

For a rental? Please.

Not a fan of either team but what do you think rentals fetch?

Not a fan of the player? Fine say that but to insinuate that a 1st is somehow an outrageous price for a rental just makes you look bad.

 

[Lunatik]

Not a fan of either team but what do you think rentals fetch?

Not a fan of the player? Fine say that but to insinuate that a 1st is somehow an outrageous price for a rental just makes you look bad.

You don't give up a 1st for a rental before the season starts, when you are coming off a season where you missed the post-season.

 

[780il]

So a bust and a bottom pair dman... At least start with a 1st or 2nd man

 

[Lunatik]

So a bust and a bottom pair dman... At least start with a 1st or 2nd man

anyone calling a player of that age a bust needs their head examined.

 

[Rolo]

Calgary should just see what they have offensively first before making more moves. They added Neal, Lindholm, Czarnik, and Ryan.

 

[slg1963]

As a Rangers fan i am hoping we resign Hayes in January to a 3-4 yr deal .

 

[TGWL]

You don't give up a 1st for a rental before the season starts, when you are coming off a season where you missed the post-season.

You do if you believe that player can help you make the playoffs. It's not just 1 player here anyway, Flames have made some off season moves, so if that rental pushes you in the right direction it's not as bad as you're making it out to be. Whether Hayes is that player is not the point here.

 

[TGWL]

As a Rangers fan i am hoping we resign Hayes in January to a 3-4 yr deal .

I don't see that happening if he's going to ask for 6 million on his next deal. If we're interested in signing him it's because he did as well, if not better than last season. #RaiseforHayes

 

[Potty John]

I would be completely open to trading Bennett at his point and adding Kulak to get Hayes nearly equals out the value. Calgary probably adds a third.

 

[DFF]

No thanks,
I like Calgary's chances of signing Hayes as a UFA should we have an interest in his services.

Bennett will prove his worth this season.

Calgary has no more cap money to sign any additional FA any time soon

As for the original deal, Hayes is not a difference maker. They would be better of keeping Bennett even for a lesser role. He is cheap and useful even if he has no upside left.

 

[Dr Quincy]

anyone calling a player of that age a bust needs their head examined.

I have a feeling a good number of Flames fans were calling Yakupov a bust at the same age.

 

[bernmeister]

no thanks

Bennett has not met expectations, so no one will take him unless cheap as a gamble/reclamation.

I was initially POed by the 1 yr to Hayes, who I still say stays long term.
But upon reflection, I could see them moving Zib sooner than later, keeping Hayes to the last minute, then still getting good rental value for him as he does a Yankees' Chapman fetching a haul and then returning.

When we selected Andersson, we did not know Chytil would still be available later. Chytil has that sniper upside and NY will consensus on him. If Andersson got top top top dollar comparable to his 7OA now, I would consider moving him now, along with Zib on paper selling high in a market short on pivots, esp righty shot pivots, at decent term/$. However, if a team w/a high enough pick does not want to swap out out their comparable 2019 for Andersson, I'm good with letting Andy develop and see what develops. I expect Zib to be out, and Hayes, Nieves and presumably Andersson to be our pivots, along w/Chytil, tho he may slide to W if C depth is added.
{The mutual backscratch on Andersson being dealt is he is ready to play now for the acquiring team, and NY would able to repurpose his value in 2019 draft with acceptably high pick.}

We are still seeing equivalent of 1st value as min for rentals, the standard in recent years [Hanzal, etc.]. If a 2nd instead of a 1st, there must be a very high prospect in lieu of, e.g., Rykov + 2nd for Grabner.
Hayes will get much more. CGY must expect to offer highest bid to top competition, and OP is not it.

Something around Hayes + for Hanifin +.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

As a Rangers fan i am hoping we resign Hayes in January to a 3-4 yr deal .

I like hayes a lot but it isn't happening. They spent months trying to get a deal with him and ultimately decided on a 1 year deal for a reason. Both Hayes and the Rangers know he is gone.