Friedman: Kevin Hayes Linked to Boston & Colorado

[Cousin Eddie]

I don't claim to know his thinking, but a player's mindset as a 22-year old isn't always the same 4 years later.

He was open to playing in the west 4 years ago lol. I’m talking about now.

 

[Tawnos]

He was open to playing in the west 4 years ago lol. I’m talking about now.

And you're basing this on what, exactly?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

And you're basing this on what, exactly?

No reason. Just my opinion. Mods can delete this post if you want

 

[Critical13]

To me, he doesn't fit Boston's current style, but offence is offence.

 

[Dead Coyote]

I am confused, are you talking about Crouse, as in Lawson Crouse? I may have missed something with his development if that is the case.

It's mostly just that I don't think Jost has that much value right now, which I can freely admit is a potentially wrong, and definitely not popular opinion.

He definitely has potential and you guys seem to really like him, and he could just break out next year since he's super young, but on the other hand he doesn't look to have done much at the NHL level without seeing an eye test, which I have not, and Hayes is undeniably better than him right now, and potentially may be for a while.

Crouse hasn't really been put into a position to succeed but is still doing pretty well overall. It's mainly that the 2nd might turn out to be a lot better in this draft. If Jost had slightly more nhl time under his belt I'd probably do it, but with our track record I'm not sure I really want a prospect who looks like he's still developing and may not turn out extremely well.

 

[McGarnagle]

I don't know if Hayes to Boston is a good idea.

His brother was here and was a major whipping boy, and rumor had it that the Hayes family talked Jimmy Vesey into signing with the Rangers and told him to avoid Boston when he was choosing sides. There might still be some bad blood there.

 

[tucker3434]

I’d take a shot at Hayes if he hits UFA. No way in hell I’d give up a 1st for him now though.

 

[Chris P Hundo]

2nd that becomes a first if Col makes it to WCF + Josh Anderson/ AJ Greer

If thats not enough, keep him. He is basically the same player as Soderberg and is not worth a 1st + Jost/Kaut

 

[ranold26]

Hayes isn't coming to Boston.

 

[rocketdan9]

Bruins will take Hayes and Zucca

 

[Machinehead]

Hayes is the perfect 2C.

Will give you 50 points and is great defensively.

 

[Lays]

Hayes is the perfect 2C.

Will give you 50 points and is great defensively.

More than 50, potentially 60
Maybe not consistently 60 but will float between 55-65 if he could get a sniper on his wing

 

[Avs44]

I think Colorado and Hayes are a match made in heaven.

Calling him a 45-50 point center is really underselling him. Half of our board wants to keep him.

Jost and a 2. Or kaut and a 1. There is going to be competition for him so the aforementioned offer that should get you thread banned is not nearly enough. Hayes is a massive, massive step up from kerfoot

So you basically think Hayes is worth two mid 1st rounders. Yeah, good luck.

 

[NORiculous]

Hayes is the perfect 2C.

Will give you 50 points and is great defensively.

I’m actually thinking he will produce more then that if he keeps it up. Big guys take a while longer to take the next step.

I think NY should keep him as he might be the next John Leclaire.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

So you basically think Hayes is worth two mid 1st rounders. Yeah, good luck.

I do.

Likely to be the top center on the market and will have a ton of interest. Building off of a strong year with an even stronger one.

He's going to get more than you think.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Bruins will take Hayes and Zucca

You can take the latter for a 1st.

You have to take his fanbase too though.

 

[Trap Jesus]

Bruins need a discount. We still have PTSD from that name from watching his brother play.

 

[Trxjw]

As a Rangers fan I'm pretty confident that Hayes isn't getting a 1st and a top organizational prospect as a rental, but a 1st and a B prospect is totally realistic. Hayes is good defensively, drives offense, plays both special teams, and brings size down the middle of the ice. He's also having the best season of his career. Those factors will make him a very attractive piece for a number of teams.

I also anticipate the Rangers trying to work a deal where Hayes extends with the team he's dealt to, or at the very least insisting on a conditional pick being included to satisfy that case.

 

[Gee Wally]

I don't know if Hayes to Boston is a good idea.

His brother was here and was a major whipping boy, and rumor had it that the Hayes family talked Jimmy Vesey into signing with the Rangers and told him to avoid Boston when he was choosing sides. There might still be some bad blood there.

Bingo!

I cant see Hayes in Boston.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I think teams are going to be trading far less 1st round picks for rentals unless there are conditions like SJ/Kane etc.

I'm not personally in favor of moving 1st round picks unless it's a clear cut long term move.

How much does it take to extend Hayes?

 

[elitepete]

Hayes is worth a late 1st + mediocre prospect/mid round pick.

1st+Jost is ridiculous

 

[pld459666]

I don't know if Hayes to Boston is a good idea.

His brother was here and was a major whipping boy, and rumor had it that the Hayes family talked Jimmy Vesey into signing with the Rangers and told him to avoid Boston when he was choosing sides. There might still be some bad blood there.

Let me echo this.

Hayes was not interested in signing with Boston due to how his brother AND family were treated by local media and fan base.

My understanding of the situation today is that not much has changed.

Since he cannot dictate where he gets traded, Boston IS a possibility, but beyond this year, I highly doubt he is there long term while h the Bruins know and as such will reflect that in any offer

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

No point discussing Hayes on these boards. Rangers fans massively over value him.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

No point discussing Hayes on these boards. Rangers fans massively over value him.

Or maybe you greatly underrate him?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Or maybe you greatly underrate him?

I've read posts from multiple Rangers fans suggesting it would take either A) Cale Makar(Laughable) B) 1st + Kaut(Again ridiculous) C) 1st + Jost/Timmins



Hayes, as an impending UFA with a career high of 45 points is not getting a Mid 1st round pick and a B+ level prospect/young NHLer. He'd be lucky to get one of those pieces and an add at all.