Player Discussion Kevin Fiala

[Wasted Talent]

While he was and Fiala is more feisty, Fiala is the secondary scorer that the Wild were hoping for in Setoguchi.

I don't think I expected Seto to be a 70 point scorer even in my wildest dreams

 

[BagHead]

I don't think I expected Seto to be a 70 point scorer even in my wildest dreams

I'm just going to knock on wood quick, since neither is Fiala yet.

 

[Nino Noderreiter]

I don't think I expected Seto to be a 70 point scorer even in my wildest dreams

I think, at best, you were hoping Seto would be the winger version of what Hartman provides this year offensively. That is very different than Fiala.

 

[AKL]

I think, at best, you were hoping Seto would be the winger version of what Hartman provides this year offensively. That is very different than Fiala.

Yeah this (Hartman) is a much better comp. You were hoping Setoguchi could be a fine complementary player that could get 25-30 goals. Fiala is a fully fledged line driver capable of way more than Setoguchi ever was.

 

[Obvious Fabertism]

I know it’s going to be hard seeing him go and he has been really good lately, but reminder that he is getting prime time opportunities against the opponents weaker players. The line driver thing is a bit questionable considering most were upset with his production last year and this year before he got Boldy, when he was on an island and was supposed to drive offense alone. The GREEF line and Kaprizov line take a majority of the big matchups leaving Fiala to feast on 3rd pair d men and bottom 6 forwards in most cases. He does really well with that, but this is not a situation that most teams can ever maintain for very long. It is a very nice luxury, but just not one we can really budget for long term.

 

[7dayBender]

I know it’s going to be hard seeing him go and he has been really good lately, but reminder that he is getting prime time opportunities against the opponents weaker players. The line driver thing is a bit questionable considering most were upset with his production last year and this year before he got Boldy, when he was on an island and was supposed to drive offense alone. The GREEF line and Kaprizov line take a majority of the big matchups leaving Fiala to feast on 3rd pair d men and bottom 6 forwards in most cases. He does really well with that, but this is not a situation that most teams can ever maintain for very long. It is a very nice luxury, but just not one we can really budget for long term.

This sums up what I have thought about the whole situation. Fiala is great to have, but not necessarily worth what he wants considering our cap.

How hard would it be to get through to Fiala that if he takes a bridge until he's 28 we can pay him then? I know you can't tell a player when they deserve certain contracts, but at 23 Kucherov took a bridge deal from 16-19 where he was only making $4.76M. Ended up working out ok for him.

If Fiala took a 3/4 year deal at something like $5.2-5.8M and he started scoring like Kucherov he could get north of $80M for the max deal that would take him to 36. Would you take Fiala at that number with a full NMC if he were willing to sign? I certainly would.

Burakovsky is the closest contract based on games and points. That was a one year deal signed in 2019 for $3.25M. he is currently on a two year $4.9M deal.

I personally think Fiala is better than Burakovsky, but not $2.5M+ per year better.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I don’t recall people being upset at Fiala’s production. 33 goal, 66 point pace playing with nobodies.

 

[Al Lagoon]

Fiala seems very happy on the ice these days. His joy at goals for him or teammates is off the charts.

I am a fan of the Fiala Gaudreau Boldy line. Freddy G is quietly putting up .5 pts a game, and hell he can snipe when he chooses to shoot. Most dependable center on the draw as well.

 

[Wasted Talent]

I'm just going to knock on wood quick, since neither is Fiala yet.

I was referring to the combination of the past 3 years where his pace falls somewhere between 65 and 70. Hopefully I can't jinx history.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

I know it’s going to be hard seeing him go and he has been really good lately, but reminder that he is getting prime time opportunities against the opponents weaker players. The line driver thing is a bit questionable considering most were upset with his production last year and this year before he got Boldy, when he was on an island and was supposed to drive offense alone. The GREEF line and Kaprizov line take a majority of the big matchups leaving Fiala to feast on 3rd pair d men and bottom 6 forwards in most cases. He does really well with that, but this is not a situation that most teams can ever maintain for very long. It is a very nice luxury, but just not one we can really budget for long term.

I was never upset with him pacing 69 and 65 points the last two seasons, nor should anyone have been. He had a carousel of linemates with the most common being Johansson last season. Putting numbers up like this with that is the epitome of driving a line.

And I couldn’t care less who his line is being matched up against, the entire goal of roster construction is to have this depth of scoring and be able to exploit a matchup. That’s literally the point. We’re finally at a place where we have 4 skilled wingers that can produce in our top 6, and we’re going to just chalk that up to, “oh well, this isn’t normal?”

Having a skilled 2nd line is not a luxury, it’s the f***ing goal, and it doesn’t/didn’t have go down this way, but when we choose an overpaid and wildly mediocre Matt Dumba, we’re going to regret it.

 

[Uberdachen]

I was so upset with Fiala when he would choose to play with the part of Parise's ghost still stuck in his body and whatever non-Ek center wasn't quite as good as Victor Rask.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Fiala is a ppg player when he has competent linemates.

 

[AKL]

Fiala is a ppg player when he has competent linemates.

I'm gonna miss him

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'm gonna miss him

Assuming we land around 10th pick (give or take 2)... how much work needs to be done from either side in a trade? Also have boston 1st that could be used and add 1 of our forward prospects.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Assuming we land around 10th pick (give or take 2)... how much work needs to be done from either side in a trade? Also have boston 1st that could be used and add 1 of our forward prospects.

10th would probably suffice.

 

[BagHead]

Assuming we land around 10th pick (give or take 2)... how much work needs to be done from either side in a trade? Also have boston 1st that could be used and add 1 of our forward prospects.

Honestly, I'd be pumped with a high(ish) 1st for Fiala, given that the Wild can't afford to re-sign him. I also hope it's 9th overall, as it would complete a pretty neat trade "tree". The Wild would have turned a 9th overall pick into Granlund, into Fiala, into 9th overall pick again. Can't imagine perfectly straight lines like that happen often in trades.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Honestly, I'd be pumped with a high(ish) 1st for Fiala, given that the Wild can't afford to re-sign him. I also hope it's 9th overall, as it would complete a pretty neat trade "tree". The Wild would have turned a 9th overall pick into Granlund, into Fiala, into 9th overall pick again. Can't imagine perfectly straight lines like that happen often in trades.

Ya given the situation the 9-11th prob a bit high, but I feel like fiala is a top 10 pick caliber player. we basically be hoping to get a fiala with that pick. I feel like we could do Boston 1st + perreault/comtois/pastujov/Tracey type deal and be in the running value wise. Ya I’m sure there is some sort of wiggle room , wild add sweetener etc but I think it’s doable as a base.

Having fiala and terry on zegras and mctavish wings would be money

 

[7dayBender]

Would you trade Fiala for Bertuzzi? If so, who adds, or do you think it would be a straight up trade?

(assuming bertuzzi's number is closer to 6 than Fiala's)

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Would you trade Fiala for Bertuzzi? If so, who adds, or do you think it would be a straight up trade?

(assuming bertuzzi's number is closer to 6 than Fiala's)

No, we'd just run into cap issues with him too, even if he was closer 6.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Keep him

 

[Southern Minny]

This may be pie in the sky here, but what if they offered Fiala a 5-year, first 3 years at 5M, year 4 at 7M and year 5 at 8M for total 30M for 5 years?

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

This may be pie in the sky here, but what if they offered Fiala a 5-year, first 3 years at 5M, year 4 at 7M and year 5 at 8M for total 30M for 5 years?

Would come out to 6M AAV and I think he’d rightfully decline

 

[ShortPeter6]

This may be pie in the sky here, but what if they offered Fiala a 5-year, first 3 years at 5M, year 4 at 7M and year 5 at 8M for total 30M for 5 years?

Unless he just really loves being here no way he accepts. With the way he’s been producing, probably looking for 8 mill avg.

It sucks but only way we can really afford him is to move Dumba, Talbot and either Zucc or a Combo of others. The extra 8 mill of dead cap makes it almost impossible to keep him.

 

[57special]

This may be pie in the sky here, but what if they offered Fiala a 5-year, first 3 years at 5M, year 4 at 7M and year 5 at 8M for total 30M for 5 years?

Yes, it is.

Fiala is worth a long term deal of at least 7M - I would say closer to 8M.

 

[Sharky40]

This may be pie in the sky here, but what if they offered Fiala a 5-year, first 3 years at 5M, year 4 at 7M and year 5 at 8M for total 30M for 5 years?

it's good to daydream lol, but no way Fiala playing for 5mm per year, ain't happening, he's worth closer to 7/7.5